The Whining and Bitching Thread

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Another T spike

So friday one of my friends forced me to go to some bar with him, little did i know there was some live band playing there and right when i stepped in the drummer started going to work and one of the speakers happened to be right next to me. I grabbed my ears and went back out immediately. It's been two days and i've never had it at this level before.

any chance this might go back down? Im fairly sure my T was never sound/noise related, but could i have possibly damaged my ears from only a second or two of that kind of exposure?

@Slayed Necros

 

[The Ozzman]

General Medical Discussion: Tinnitus Discussion Forum

 

[CiG]

Dude... Tech that's fucking awful man. We take our hearing for granted so much, it's horrible having any hearing issues at all, let alone pain like that.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

yea, it's a fucking nightmare. Has effected my "quality of life" in a major way.

 

[Slayed Necros]

Another T spike

So friday one of my friends forced me to go to some bar with him, little did i know there was some live band playing there and right when i stepped in the drummer started going to work and one of the speakers happened to be right next to me. I grabbed my ears and went back out immediately. It's been two days and i've never had it at this level before.

any chance this might go back down? Im fairly sure my T was never sound/noise related, but could i have possibly damaged my ears from only a second or two of that kind of exposure?

@Slayed Necros

Damn, sorry to hear that. There's definitely a good possibility that it could go back down to what was a normal level after a few days but also the possibility that the new level becomes the new normal, which is exactly what happened to me (it just exploded out of nowhere in complete silence). And yeah, exposure to loud/sudden noise for a second or two will cause a significant spike for me that will at least last the remainder of the day. It's so fucking unpredictable, fluctuating and changing rapidly with seemingly no cause. Sorry I can't be of more help man, but fire away with the questions if you have any.

 

[CiG]

 

[Slayed Necros]

I should've mentioned this; look into tinnitus retraining therapy. It's usually expensive, but I hear it can be greatly helpful to some people. I think my tinnitus was too advanced for it to be of much help for me, but I still wear sound generators in my ears for 8 hours each day in a somewhat feeble attempt to combat hyperacusis.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Damn, sorry to hear that. There's definitely a good possibility that it could go back down to what was a normal level after a few days but also the possibility that the new level becomes the new normal, which is exactly what happened to me (it just exploded out of nowhere in complete silence). And yeah, exposure to loud/sudden noise for a second or two will cause a significant spike for me that will at least last the remainder of the day. It's so fucking unpredictable, fluctuating and changing rapidly with seemingly no cause. Sorry I can't be of more help man, but fire away with the questions if you have any.

Yeah i ve had spikes out of nowhere too, and im almost sure my T stayed up after one of them but i eventually habituated. And i've had temporary spikes from loud noises too but they eventually settled down within a few hours or a day or two like you said. One of the worst ones i had was when i was driving with my t-top off on the freeway, not sure if it was the air or the noise but once i got to a stop light i was like "oh fuck what have i done". The spike im currently experiencing is the highest its been and its like a fucking whistle!

Anyway, sorry to talk your ears off but i cant really talk to other people about this because they're just so clueless and start asking dumb stuff. Even the docs, but you already know this. One of the most annoying things is when people still ask me "have your ears got better" after i have told them numerous time "no, and they're not going to but i just deal with it". Anyway, just wanted to ask because i've heard tinnitus form loud noise exposure is usually permanent and from what i remember you said yours was from just that. I'm just so fucking lost and befuddled when it comes to this damn thing.

 

[Slayed Necros]

Yeah i ve had spikes out of nowhere too, and im almost sure my T stayed up after one of them but i eventually habituated. And i've had temporary spikes from loud noises too but they eventually settled down within a few hours or a day or two like you said. One of the worst ones i had was when i was driving with my t-top off on the freeway, not sure if it was the air or the noise but once i got to a stop light i was like "oh fuck what have i done". The spike im currently experiencing is the highest its been and its like a fucking whistle!

Anyway, sorry to talk your ears off but i cant really talk to other people about this because they're just so clueless and start asking dumb stuff. Even the docs, but you already know this. One of the most annoying things is when people still ask me "have your ears got better" after i have told them numerous time "no, and they're not going to but i just deal with it". Anyway, just wanted to ask because i've heard tinnitus form loud noise exposure is usually permanent and from what i remember you said yours was from just that. I'm just so fucking lost and befuddled when it comes to this damn thing.

Yeah, I still feel lost and utterly helpless and it's been five years since my initial huge spike. I was lucky to have a really knowledgeable audiologist practicing not far from where I live and she specializes in treating tinnitus, but hyperacusis was a mystery even to her. Regular GPs are fucking useless. Mine initially prescribed me antidepressants that actually made my tinnitus worse.

 

[jimmy101]

Hope you can find some quality treatment TB. Might be best to go straight to an ear specialist, usually GPs can refer you to them.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Yeah, I still feel lost and utterly helpless and it's been five years since my initial huge spike. I was lucky to have a really knowledgeable audiologist practicing not far from where I live and she specializes in treating tinnitus, but hyperacusis was a mystery even to her. Regular GPs are fucking useless. Mine initially prescribed me antidepressants that actually made my tinnitus worse.

yea i dont touch pills at all anymore because im almost sure mine started from ibuprofen(+ a huge stress overload when my Grandmother passed away). And the worst part is listening to some of those moron doctors after i've read thousands of articles and first hand experiences with T. I wont even get into it, but the stuff some of them were saying would have blown your mind(out of their sheer idiocy). Made me legitimately question whether i should ever go see a doctor again. And like you said almost every time they've tried prescribing me some kind of drug that just so happens to be ototoxic. And these are the poepl who are supposedly trying to help me. Unbelievable.

Is hyperacusis something that can be "fixed" or is it also permanent like t? I've heard it mentioned a lot on the tinnitus forums when i was reading up. I would say "i hope your ears get better" but im not sure that would be appropriate, and im not even convinced anymore that its the actual ears that are the problem. But i do hope you somehow conquer this shitty affliction.

 

[Bloopy]

I've read about people going overseas and spending tens of thousands of dollars on stem cell treatment for tinnitus, with good results (including unintended health benefits to joints and other things). Hopefully that sort of thing becomes commonplace and cheaper. I've never worn ear plugs at live shows and I have a bit, but it doesn't really seem to get any worse at this point.

 

[jimmy101]

Absolutely. I went over to India with a disabled friend back in 2011 who received stem cell treatment on his spinal chord.

Excellent results after a few weeks time, he went from being paralysed from the diaphragm down, to being paralysed from the waist down. Regained all feeling in his abdomen and genital region. Unfortunately it cost too much for him to continue. Shame about the fact that it's astronomically expensive & illegal in most parts of the western world. Also happened to meet an American fellow over there who was having stem cell treatment in his eyes to treat his blindness. It's an incredible, multi-faceted technology.

 

[Slayed Necros]

Is hyperacusis something that can be "fixed" or is it also permanent like t? I've heard it mentioned a lot on the tinnitus forums when i was reading up. I would say "i hope your ears get better" but im not sure that would be appropriate, and im not even convinced anymore that its the actual ears that are the problem. But i do hope you somehow conquer this shitty affliction.

I think it's permanent. The sound generators I mentioned earlier have definitely helped a bit but they're pretty unpleasant to wear every day. I hope you see some improvements soon too man, keep me updated. This shit is a curse.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

As a long-time tinnitus sufferer, my experience has been that it gets better the less you worry about it. I don't presume that it's like this for everyone or that it's something that can just be thought away, but it's also poorly understood so who the fuck even knows. I've been at a stage where my tinnitus was so bad I wanted to kill myself, and now it's barely a factor in my life at all. In the past I would make sure to keep a fan on while reading or trying to sleep to distract from the constant whining. Now I read and sleep in complete silence. The whining is still there, if I concentrate on it. I don't know if it got better or if I learned to tune it out. Sometimes I have spikes, and when that happens I use white noise or ambient sounds to alleviate it until it goes back to normal. Otherwise I try not to use such aids to block out the ringing because I find they make it much more noticeable as soon as you turn it off.

 

[Blurry_Dreams]

my insulin-dependent friend got robbed
the ONLY thing actually stolen was his fucking insulin
what the effing hell??

my friend is in the hospital now on an insulin drip

my insulin-dependent friend is fine now, btw, you know, just in case anybody cared

 

[Krow]

My tinnitus issues have greatly decreased as long as I keep earbuds out of my ears. (Probably doesn’t hurt that I’m four years removed from the machine shop)
Tbh I still have to sleep with the fan or the tv or something on though and I’ve probably learned to ignore it unless I concentrate on the damn buzzing.

Not that most people here would ever encounter this but a sharp hammer blow in my immediate area sets mine off like a firecracker in my skull. It will usually calm back down after a while though.

 

[The Ozzman]

I guess I get spikes now? I will get some ringing in my ears at random intervals and then it will go away after 5 or 6 seconds and then not return for an indefinite period. It doesn't help that I work at a gun range now and sometimes I am not wearing my ear protection when something like a .30-06 goes off and the door to the bay is open. Normally I am wearing it and it isn't a problem.

 

[EternalMetal]

I guess I get spikes now? I will get some ringing in my ears at random intervals and then it will go away after 5 or 6 seconds and then not return for an indefinite period. It doesn't help that I work at a gun range now and sometimes I am not wearing my ear protection when something like a .30-06 goes off and the door to the bay is open. Normally I am wearing it and it isn't a problem.

Yea, this is how tinnitus starts. The other day I had a spike last for almost an hour for the first time ever, and it is sort of worrisome because it means that it is only going to get worse from here if I keep exposing myself to loud noises and ill start saying shit like the guys on here who have a true affliction.

I go to a lot of live shows (3 or 4+ metal shows a month), and I can only name 2 or 3 shows that ive been to in the past 15 years that I havent had ear protection in during (every one of them a bad mistake). However one thing that ive started changing recently (past month or two) is that I no longer wait until the band has started playing before I plug them up. I no longer care if I have a hard time talking to my buddies during sound check.

@Krow - would carpentry hammer noises trigger that as well?

 

[Krow]

@Krow - would carpentry hammer noises trigger that as well?

Tbh I don’t really think so. In my line of work a lot of metal on metal hammering happens though. If I happen to be on site while someone is beating together hammer unions I have to go sit in the truck if we’re near them.