Themed Mixtape Game
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Baroque
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How do you know their thinking was just 'duh it has tornado in the name'? Maybe they wanted a creative interpretation: inner natural disasters instead of literal natural disasters. Part of the problem with this format is people often don't explain their picks, but that also means we cannot exactly make assumptions about why they picked what they picked.
What led you to make the assumption they only picked the song because of tornado in the name? Do you assume everyone's reasoning is dumb? How about asking them why they picked it?
Also lol at those who thought I picked it and downrated it because of that.
Elric of Melniboné
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Upon being asked if I know what "especially" means, I asked if you knew what "as relevant as" means and explained that I used the term especially as follows in context:
As you can see, the word "especially" is synonymous with words that mean the exact same thing as what I said when you asked me what the word meant. No dodging involved.
Feel free to to stop dodging, as you so eloquently put it, and show me a credible source that shows that the phrases "as relevant as" and "more relevant than" are synonymous, as this would be an absolute requirement for me to have stated that I feel one is more relevant than the other.
I've already proven that I'm correct, so you could also just gracefully accept that you made a mistake. I won't be replying either way.
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HamburgerBoy
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I acknowledge that you said "as relevant" and not "more relevant". That doesn't change my argument. It still means that you think non-reality of Christian mythos vs reality of Christian-led war has bearing on relevance to theme. I'll restate my mythological beast analogy accordingly, and with a better example:
What does "actually happening" have to do with anything? Mythological beasts never actually happened, but I would think a song specifically about the Sphinx statue located in Egypt would be less relevant than a song about sphinxes as imaginary monsters, in the context of the mythological beasts theme we had earlier.
What does "actually happening" have to do with anything? Mythological beasts never actually happened, but I would think a song specifically about the Sphinx statue located in Egypt would be less relevant than a song about sphinxes as imaginary monsters, in the context of the mythological beasts theme we had earlier.
Krow
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Post the list already shitbreath.
Post the list already shitbreath.
Baroque
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relevance to one definition or aspect of the theme is irrelevant. there are many interpretations for most themes and i encourage people to be clever with it. again if all you want is most literally relevant just do a metallum lyric search.
it's like, you've never heard of a metaphor, or read a poem or something
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Sirjack
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HamburgerBoy
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That doesn't have anything to do with my specific point with Omni.
Metaphor makes sense if the metaphor describes the topic. For example, Coroner's Mistress of Deception uses metaphor of a woman to describe a desert and the struggles of living in it. Putting aside that the song literally describes a desert as well, I would say that would be a fine choice for a desert theme, but a questionable one for a female theme.
Elric of Melniboné
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I'll bite since you actually acknowledged that you were mistaken.
I stated multiple times during this conversation that I am referring to canonized figures and events such as saints and events that are cobsidered blessed or miraculous in church canon. I also stated that I would feel that they were appropriate if the saints, miracles and the like were discussed from a religious viewpoint.
It should be pretty easy to see why I would feel that songs about historical figures that are canonized saints or historical events that are officially recognized as miracles or blessed events are extremely relevant to the theme. A song that is about something like this but has nothing to do with the Christian canonization of it would be a bad pick.
I don't see officially canonized saints and miracles as being comparable to a statue. The statue isn't a canonized part of the mythology.
Baroque
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So you're ok with using X as a metaphor for the theme, but not with using the theme as a metaphor for X? idk why
HamburgerBoy
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Because that's how metaphor works, particularly in metal where 99% of lyricists are far from poetic. Would you support Pantera's Ride My Rocket for a space travel theme? I mean, 'rocket' is right there in the title, not to mention that vaginas are known for their expansive properties. There are cases where I could imagine a metaphor being explored deeply enough that it could work either way (e.g. Protest the Hero's Hair-Trigger which on the surface is a sexually-tinged song about being in a destructive relationship, but is actually entirely about cigarette addiction). Throwing a metaphor into a song title and chorus and having everything else on a different subject is not sufficient though.
Sirjack
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Serjeant Grumbles
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Yeah, but if you factor in arg's incompetence, it takes hours.
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arg can't be that incompetent if he makes all that sick dosh and gets to fly to Europe monthly to fuck all the best whores
