this forum is depressing
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Dhatura
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Bambi
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you misread young jedi, i said people dont reveal anything that they dont want to reveal. Theres a big difference between that "So everything is false, an image we're presenting to the world with no connection to our real self". dunno where yer getting the more to life bit tho, probbaly just projecting your on foibles onto soemone else
. Mind you breeding and staying alive is a pretty noble aspiration for most species on this planet, us westerners are far to clever and arrogant to be happy with something that unselfish though, which is why we're declining in numbers i guess
Strangelight
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I think the level of intelligience is higher on this forum than the others Ive seen. Just a lot of it goes over peoples heads, but thats ok.
Allan
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Actually that is the only interesting thing I have heard from Hemmingway, I'm not even sure it was Hemmingway but I think so.
At the time it really bothered me because I used to think of myself as the king of sarcasm.
Sarcasm is too easy though, I'd rather put my true beliefs outthere for people to judge and ridicule (or debate) and be able to take it. Can't right now though, I have sought the comfort of sarcasm one more time.
It's kind of the same problem when I quote lyrics I'm affraid.
At the time it really bothered me because I used to think of myself as the king of sarcasm.
Sarcasm is too easy though, I'd rather put my true beliefs outthere for people to judge and ridicule (or debate) and be able to take it. Can't right now though, I have sought the comfort of sarcasm one more time.
It's kind of the same problem when I quote lyrics I'm affraid.
Allan
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Bambi said:you misread young jedi, i said people dont reveal anything that they dont want to reveal. Theres a big difference between that "So everything is false, an image we're presenting to the world with no connection to our real self". dunno where yer getting the more to life bit tho, probbaly just projecting your on foibles onto soemone else
Wasn't specifically talking about your post, yet I understand why you thought so.
Obviously people don't reveal anything they don't want to. In theory I want to reveal everything.
Did I question the nobility of breeding and staying alive?
mehdi.i.e.e.e
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im sure theres none of that cheese in chinese movies. just emotionless looks, miff wank, breeding, there you go, keep it straight to the core.
toolsofthetrade
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Allan said:
and as a practitioner? we mostly fear being ridiculed or misunderstood when we vent our serious thoughts. it's easy to ridicule someone else's thought by just being on the opposite side of it. could be a good test for both sides tho.
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its just that everyone goes so cheesy when they talk about serious matters, they feel like they have to be cheesy, cause its the way it is in dawson creek, charmed and beverly fucking hills. the thing is that, the less stupid you are, the more efficient is your cheese radar.
Allan
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Bambi
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mehdi is correctness personified here,
i liked the samurai movies where showing emotion is a weakness, like when your mate gets his head chopped off you just kinda purse your lips and your eyes bulge a bit but contain the rage inside
i liked the samurai movies where showing emotion is a weakness, like when your mate gets his head chopped off you just kinda purse your lips and your eyes bulge a bit but contain the rage inside
Bambi
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Allan
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I think you might have a problem if you need serious and sincere defined.
To me cheesy is insincere and pretentious.
Sadly it seems to be hard to see the difference.
To me cheesy is insincere and pretentious.
Sadly it seems to be hard to see the difference.
Dhatura
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mehdi.i.e.e.e
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cheesy as in overdone gay pink slow-motion smelly us-movie bollocks top-model-population toothpaste-smile expression. did i make it clear?
toolsofthetrade
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Dhatura
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mehdi.i.e.e.e said:
there are a LOT of things between cheese and emotionless...
and dont talk about chinese movies if you dont know them
. american movies: there are lots of them which are good.. and many many many crap. why? cos they make many cos they have much money to make many! but people are quite the same shit everywhere. Do you know e.g. Indian movies, man? Just watch 2-3 of them and you will wish to see 2 series of Ally McBeal at once after it.. Thou i agree, america sux.
but its really not the movies to blame... some decades ago people was afraid to talk about sex, about feelings, "boys dont cry' you know, psychology was not even existing a hundred ago, so we are still in a great development, and if someone changes his/her conviction according to what is shown on movies, then its just simple idiotism.
about sarcasm and that..
its all from lack of information and education and empathy and so.. People are ignorant. and they dont know enough about emotions, social interactions, about how things work phisically and systematically between humans, so they are 1. afraid (afraid of others reactions, their own feelings, judgements and all this not-know mistery..) 2. feeling ashamed - maybe cos after all everyone needs to show strength, be better and wiser and healthier and richer than all, its a competition. So they must hide all that can be taken as a minus.
So whats then if someone stands out and undertakes something? Thats crazy. People will be afraid of others who are not afraid, because who are not afraid they must be brave and strong, only it makes sense. Besides they will be afraid of the pure possibility of such things can come to light. So most of them needs to hide, build a shield and separate from others, behave as rules say and live without taking part in the story called life. I dont really think its worth it.
Do people really have things to feel ashamed of that much??? Do they need to be loved by everyone and show a mask? Do we have to be winners? win what? I dont think e.g. i have anything to hide really.. ok, maybe, some thoughts, a reasonable amount of private part of me.. but its not mad. I'd have to feel guilt if I killed someone.. true. But most of the people who kill others are those psychos who wear masks, who are dependent on other people, on money, on success, on all these fearful things. Anger comes from fear. If one fears looking into the mirror, if one's afraid of others getting a close picture of him, that won't lead to any good things. And on the top of these: I also think people posting here are more intelligent and sensitive and understanding and tolerant, so it makes me more confident. Criticism only hurts much if self-assuarence is injured. (mine is like that anyway
but still in most cases I prefer the truth and honesty to any funny blahblah. So e.g. if you think I write too much blather and me getting boring and that, just say. if you dare
