TRIGGER Intro Video and NEWS
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Soundlurker
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^ Yeah, it has an input but no output as far as I know.
Well, at least I had gotten the wavs and gogs to keep myself busy with. Plus, there wasn't much else I could do but wait and write emails and PMs. I wouldn't flood the internet with threads about how they are trying to rip me off or something, especially considering how awesome the samples are for 20$.
Anyway, sorry for the OT.
Lol it took a shitload of time Shadow, but finally you made it thanks to the guys and your infinite patience I guess
Well, at least I had gotten the wavs and gogs to keep myself busy with. Plus, there wasn't much else I could do but wait and write emails and PMs. I wouldn't flood the internet with threads about how they are trying to rip me off or something, especially considering how awesome the samples are for 20$.
Anyway, sorry for the OT.
apTrigga2 does not have MIDI output, unfortunately.
This is another reason why TRIGGER is a no-brainer for me. I was using DrumTracker before to convert the drum audio into MIDI, then trigger apTrigga with that. But when I get TRIGGER I can just throw it on the audio track, tweak it, record it's MIDI output and then route the MIDI to TRIGGER. Much easier and saves a LOT of time.
This is another reason why TRIGGER is a no-brainer for me. I was using DrumTracker before to convert the drum audio into MIDI, then trigger apTrigga with that. But when I get TRIGGER I can just throw it on the audio track, tweak it, record it's MIDI output and then route the MIDI to TRIGGER. Much easier and saves a LOT of time.
SocialNumb
Damn Christians!
Dudes, can trig be used as a drum machine?? As in pull up piano roll and program. Use my midi key board or whatever¿¿
Just curious.
Just curious.
Ermz
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SocialNumb
Damn Christians!
basically i want to use trigger just as a MIDI I/O sampler
that plays slate samples, so i don't have to use shit ass kontakt anymore
cheers
S.
I'm quite curious as to anyone could have a problem making drums with Kontakt. Its pretty foolproof. Load kit. Tweak levels and pans. Play.
Trigger is not intended to replace a virtual instrument.
Trigger is not intended to replace a virtual instrument.
AdamWathan
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Yeah curious about the midi capabilities, I am very interested in using it the same way as Mike and Ermz. I'm sure it can do exactly what you guys are suggesting though, if I can accept MIDI in and record MIDI out then we are golden. Looking forward to buying Steven, regardless of whether or not I can get it to trigger as accurately as I hope, it still looks like the best option on the market and that is enough to win me over. Looking forward to the retail version man!
AdamWathan
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Hi Adam, try the 1.1 demo, it works PERFECTLY on the track you had
Sorry man not the case here, still out of sync on some of the quiet hits in the fast rolls. It's close, and every hard hit is bang on, but perfect is a bit of a stretch. Care to upload the replaced track maybe and the settings you used...? Still going to buy your stupid plugin, don't worry
Seth Munson
How do Amber Lamps?
Seth Munson
How do Amber Lamps?
oh yea, and Steven, when the fuck is the demo for the mastering plugin going to be out?!
i want that shit bad
i want that shit bad
Sorry man not the case here, still out of sync on some of the quiet hits in the fast rolls. It's close, and every hard hit is bang on, but perfect is a bit of a stretch. Care to upload the replaced track maybe and the settings you used...? Still going to buy your stupid plugin, don't worry
Yeah, I feel your pain!! I wish it worked better...
Yeah, I feel your pain!! I wish it worked better...
Guys, I'm sure the problem just in triggering settings. TRIGGER is very sensitive plugin and for some tracks even changing Input by 1 dB may totally change results.
Feel free to PM me your tracks and I will send you renders and screen shots with optimal settings for your tracks. I always happy to help you
Hey Adam, I found your track in this thread. I can post here (or PM you) render and screen shot with optimal TRIGGER settings for your track.
Zombietakeover
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Ermz
¯\(°_o)/¯
What is it specifically that trigger is sensitive to? Does that mean that level changes in the source are bound to alter its phase response when aligning samples? What are the pitfalls with sensitivity that we need to avoid?
Very good questions!
Also Sensitivity control affects triggering accuracy a lot. If you don't want to use the Leakage Suppression, or if you have not full tracking and you have, for instance, only snare drum, which you need to replace, then try to experiment more with sensitivity. If you have not enough accuracy for soft hits, try to raise up the Sensitivity control. Usually for triggering without Leakage Suppression I use Sens values from 50 to 72.
And again - there is no exact solutions, because every track and every drum has it's own character.
Also when you testing accuracy, don't forget that Slate samples have rich dynamics. This means that the softer velocity layer have the visually smoother attack, so if you want to test non-musical accuracy (as scientist), don't forget to change Articulation to Rimshot mode.
Anyway, always use your ears. Look at TRIGGER Wave Display, when you setting up triggering it will help you a lot, but what you hear is the main thing. TRIGGER is not scientific tool, it's a musical tool.
BTW, don't forget to read manual. Especially sections 6.4, 6.2, 4.1
Remember guys, that every thing has it's own peculiarities. As soon as you'll learn TRIGGER you'll get that it's great tool
TRIGGER (especially new demo) is sensitive to low frequencies noise, so don't forget to use HPF.
Of course! It's just a physics thing. On Wave Display you can see a white horizontal line (it's Detail). So, if you don't have enough Input volume then some parts (I mean the beginning of transients) of soft and medium hits may be located just under Detail line. This may cause some delays in these hits triggering. Usually I have about 10-20 samples of delay on soft hits when I setting Detail too high. Conclusion that lower Detail values making more accurate triggering. But there is a few things, which prevent you from setting Detail to low values (down to 0.05-0.01) - it's bleeds, low freq noise and high freq noise. Bleeds you can eliminate using Leakage Suppression (as soon as you get how it works, you'll see that it's amazing thing for blast beats and other metal things). To eliminate low freq noise you can use HPF. As for high freq noise, it's uncommon thing, but if you have it, I recommend to use EQ to eliminate this.
Also Sensitivity control affects triggering accuracy a lot. If you don't want to use the Leakage Suppression, or if you have not full tracking and you have, for instance, only snare drum, which you need to replace, then try to experiment more with sensitivity. If you have not enough accuracy for soft hits, try to raise up the Sensitivity control. Usually for triggering without Leakage Suppression I use Sens values from 50 to 72.
And again - there is no exact solutions, because every track and every drum has it's own character.
Also when you testing accuracy, don't forget that Slate samples have rich dynamics. This means that the softer velocity layer have the visually smoother attack, so if you want to test non-musical accuracy (as scientist), don't forget to change Articulation to Rimshot mode.
Anyway, always use your ears. Look at TRIGGER Wave Display, when you setting up triggering it will help you a lot, but what you hear is the main thing. TRIGGER is not scientific tool, it's a musical tool.
BTW, don't forget to read manual. Especially sections 6.4, 6.2, 4.1
There is no any pitfalls. You just need to understand when enough (and optimal) Input volume (it's also important to make TRIGGER following original dynamic) and when is not enough. For instance, right now I just triggering Adam track and I see that there is very inconsistent drum playing. I hear there a several hard hits, which have same volume for human ear, but I see that their peaks have about 6 dB difference. So I starting to experiment with finding optimal Input volume to trigger hard hits with hard hit samples, medium hits with medium hit samples, etc.. After 2 minutes of experiments I found optimal to add to this track +11 dB. And now, after I set proper input volume, I starting to setup triggering.
Remember guys, that every thing has it's own peculiarities. As soon as you'll learn TRIGGER you'll get that it's great tool
