What I'm about to suggest may shock u.......

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But it probably won't :D Well I think, if you listen to BRI, there are several gaps, like at (I think its 13.00) where Mikaels says "Black Rose Immortal", this would be the prefect ending. There is then a silence and a new acoustic part starts. Y not just make this a different song? Now, I know many people say that it belongs as one track as all of it flows and fits together so well, but, IMO, the entire album is like that.

I don't really know y I'm suggesting this as it makes no difference the number of tracks really, but hey :loco:
 
Yeah, it could be 3 songs. First week of listening to the album and I was convinced that was the end of the song every time. Sooner or later I realized the actual ending. Nah, man. 20 minutes of BRI is incredible...but, yeah. I see your point. It COULD be 3.
 
Why am I tempted to laugh-out-loud? :)

godisanatheist, you sound like newb man. Get with the program, esse. (in spanish accent) :loco:

Seriously, I think the same thing some times. I go "now, why doesn't the song end just there? or begin here?"

The song grabs and takes us along again for another "journey" and some of us a long the way get tired, no? But that's precisely why it's "progressive." Like all "journeys" and "tales" of sorrow and/or love and suffering, it needs no justification or excuse. It's only logic is that *it is* You see what I'm saying?

I like BRI as it is. After Mikael whispers "black rose immortal" the song is given another layer as it were, a new turn of suffering that refuses to die, and that's life. In the song it ends with one long wail and it's epic, and I am grateful.
 
BRI wouldn't be BRI if it was cut short.
But yeah it doesn't make a difference to the ALBUM if it was split into 2 or more songs.
 
Originally posted by Xtokalon
Why am I tempted to laugh-out-loud? :)
godisanatheist, you sound like newb man. Get with the program, esse. (in spanish accent) :loco:
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:loco: By that reasoning so do u:

Seriously, I think the same thing some times. I go "now, why doesn't the song end just there? or begin here?"
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Heh. I agree tho, I LIKE it as one song and would in no way change it. It just strikes me they took great pride in it being their "magnum opus", where i think they could just have easily done a one track album (in my eyes the entire album is one song, or about nine or ten :loco:) I was just wonderring how they chose where to start and end the song

The song grabs and takes us along again for another "journey" and some of us a long the way get tired, no? But that's precisely why it's "progressive." Like all "journeys" and "tales" of sorrow and/or love and suffering, it needs no justification or excuse. It's only logic is that *it is* You see what I'm saying?
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Agree totally, and a great journey it is :) But as I said above (well nearly) the entire album is a journey... How did they choose where this particular one ended and the next began

I like BRI as it is. After Mikael whispers "black rose immortal" the song is given another layer as it were, a new turn of suffering that refuses to die, and that's life. In the song it ends with one long wail and it's epic, and I am grateful.
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Same here, but that wasn't really what I was getting at with the post, I was just asking if others felt the same that it COULD be split into several songs. And it could, it just wouldn't be BRI

Neway, more importantly who's Melinda :loco:
 
I think I might like it more, if it were "torn apart" into three different songs. Those parts just don't belong that close together, IMHO, just like Advent and The Night and the Silent Water don't belong together. Black Rose Immortal is the only Opeth-song I feel like that.

-Villain
 
By that reasoning so do u:
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I sound like a newbie? no way mang!! (heh thanks opet)


", where i think they could just have easily done a one track album (in my eyes the entire album is one song, or about nine or ten :loco I was just wonderring how they chose where to start and end the song
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This is where i disagree :eek:

Track 1-3 are all self-enclosed, and have a personality about them, a beginning, a middle and an ending. Advent does, TNSW does and Nectar does. And so does BRI, but I chime in agreement about the "it sounds like three songs" thing. It's winding but that's what's great about it. And understood properly it has that feeling of being "self-enclosed" too. just lovely

Anyway that's my two cents.


later
 
aren't all the best songs ones where they are like 3 in one? um , cant think of the top of my head of many, paranoid android, Bohemian (sp?) rapsody. oh and yes, you are a disgrace to this forum and i am both shocked and sadened at your stupidity :p
 
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oh and yes, you are a disgrace to this forum and i am both shocked and sadened at your stupidity :p
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Many are yes, my point was to me the entire album is like this :loco: I'm afraid due to that reply I'm going to have to hunt you down, and scoop your heart out with a rusty spoon...... Wait no worse....... I'm going to.......... make you listen to......... BRITNEY SPEARS on repeat for what seem like an eternity (half an hour!) Mwahahahahaha :heh: :heh: :rolleyes:
 
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Many are yes, my point was to me the entire album is like this :loco: I'm afraid due to that reply I'm going to have to hunt you down, and scoop your heart out with a rusty spoon...... Wait no worse....... I'm going to.......... make you listen to......... BRITNEY SPEARS on repeat for what seem like an eternity (half an hour!) Mwahahahahaha :heh: :heh: :rolleyes:
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but i like Britany spears :p
 
If that second part were a whole different song, it'd be mostly guitar, there are so few vocals. or are there any? I'm kinda stupid today.

but on another note, I sold some guy a $625 pen today. mmm.. Mont Blanc.
 
It's funny that you mention this because I was just thinking, night before last, about how that song could be broken down into about four movements. Black Rose Immortal is the title of the song, and each movement could have a title, much like a lot of classical pieces ("moonlight sonata" for example), although you couldn't quite name the movements by speed. Anyway...
 
Actually that was the original ending of the song Mikael decided to add that extra because he was bored i dunno.....:loco:
plus that song took 4 years to write...fuckin:loco:
VT
 
I think the end is perfect...like a little
extra journey before you're really home...
Like when you've been travelling for quite a
while, and see home, but there's still a bit of distance left to cover.
 
I remember it took me quite a few listens in the car (not looking at lyrics or using tape advance which almost never works with Opeth anyway) to figure out what was the end of Nectar and the beginning of BRI. They do tend to stray from the usual beginning and ending sounds of songs. Then once I knew, how could you forget! That raspy "IN" at the beginning. Sounds painful/hard to pronounce. :)
 
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