I just don't get it. I mean, I've TRIED, lord knows I've tried to get into them, and see what the big deal is about. But frankly, I think they suck. The majority of their songs are 11-20 minutes of half acoustic/half metal songs that are VERY predictable for the most part (with crappy vocals on top of it). I mean I know it's a matter of opinion but, I'm just curious. I do like their cover of Circle of Tyrants...and there are some badass riffs in some songs, like Black Rose Immortal... but I just can't get into this band. Who agrees? Who disagrees?