Crimson Velvet said:
he is equally narrow minded by presuming that none of said people have made any research.
i am utterly fucking certain that they have not. utterly.
cookiecutter said:
If he said surrealism was stupid because they didn't paint something exactly as it looks, that would be ignorant.
that's almost exactly what my point is.
most here say "metalcore is bad because i don't like the way it sounds". but they have no explaination for why they initially don't like the sound of metalcore. they haven't given the music an unbiased listen, so they are not judging it on it's own merits but in relation to their own prejudices. so that means that their narrow minded dismissal of the style came from nowhere but their own ill-informed opinions.
and
that's ignorant.
Necro Joe said:
The goals of any given peice of art are based on interpretation and subjectivity so how can any one individual evaluate how well they have been attained?
well, that's the trick isn't it, but you must agree that one person who has, with an open mind, experienced many more styles of art than another person would be more entitled to an opinion on whether a work is "good" or "bad", simply because they have a much larger context to put it in?
You can't only judge art on the artists' ability to draw, there's a whole other depth to it that can't simply be judged in the same fashion.
agreed.
you also can't judge a metalcore band by the fact that they play metalcore, if you have already decided that metalcore is a negative thing.
that's like me saying i hate fucking carrots, then judging a 'best carrot' contest. i would not be qualified to give an unbiased opinion.
(though really, i should learn to enjoy carrots so i can appreciate their subtleties and expand my greater knowledge of vegetables so i can be a better person.)
Mumblefood said:
and you've got it figured out, right?
yup.
You've never written off a "good" band before?
i dont think i gave darkthrone a fair listen when i first heard them at 13 or so. but i straightened myself out pretty quick. otherwise, no.
Want me to show you some good music you're going to absolutely hate and thus claim it to be bad?
yup.
VampyrRose said:
Would you say N'sync are good or bad?
as lab-created dance pop written for 11 year olds, it's spectacular.
n'sync is not art, though. it does not fit the parameters. all art must, to some degree, have been willed into existance for no reason but for it's own sake of existing. n'sync was created as a product to be sold, like Kraft Cheese Slices. there are no outstanding qualities, no aspirations of greatness in any of it's aspects.
if the guy who makes kraft cheese slices made cheese for himself, it would definately not taste like that.
art must be inspired, and never manufactured.
maybe you could argue that all music which is created by a capable composer is inspired in
some small way, but there's a point where you have to draw the line. you just fucking do.
