Your Thoughts On Grindcore

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I've grown to have a quite a fondness for it. (Thanks largely to v5 and ohiogrinder recs) :)

In fact, I've been in more of a grind/harcore mood lately than a metal mood. I'm not talking about scene crap either.
 
I have heard:
Repulsion
Pig Destroyer
Nasum
Job For A Cowboy
Napalm Death
Anal Cunt

I realize this ranges from deathgrind to grindcore, but whatever you call these bands, I strongly dislike them. I refuse to write off grindcore as a genre, because I haven't really heard enough to form an opinion. But so far, I haven't been impressed.
 
I have heard:
Repulsion
Pig Destroyer
Nasum
Job For A Cowboy
Napalm Death
Anal Cunt

I realize this ranges from deathgrind to grindcore, but whatever you call these bands, I strongly dislike them. I refuse to write off grindcore as a genre, because I haven't really heard enough to form an opinion. But so far, I haven't been impressed.

JFAC isn't any form of Grind.

You don't like Napalm Death? What album did you hear?
 
and i am going to laugh...there's no defending it..."it's breakthrough" "it goes against the norms of music"....exactly. The norms of music include talent. Ouch

And I'm glad at least one other person agrees with me on this...if you want something heavy, Listen to some Gojira or Behemoth...not Anal Cunt or some other awful band.

Those arguments would certainly not be ideal starting points for defending the genre. Two decades old now, it has the usual batch of innovators and purists and isn't necessarily any more or less "breakthrough" than anything else. "Goes against the norms of music"? Well, there's a ton of problems with that argument, regardless of the style in question.

At the same time, your implication that grindcore is inferior doesn't hold much weight either unless everyone can: a) agree what "heavy" means and b) decide that heavier is automatically better. Like black, death, power or doom metal, grindcore has its own distinct qualities that the music strives for. You either like those qualities and think they translate into effective songwriting, or you don't.

I personally love the wreckless abandon and primitive urgency of grindcore. The classics like Terrorizer, Napalm Death, Repulsion and Carcass are cool of course. Some other favorites of mine:

Rotten Sound - Murderworks
Nasum - Inhale/Exhale
Flesh Parade - Kill Whitey
Phobia - Means of Existence
Bodies Lay Broken - Eximinious Execration of Exiguous Exequies
Catheter/FUBAR split
Birdflesh - Night of the Ultimate Mosh
Agoraphobic Nosebleed - Honky Reduction
Circle of Dead Children - The Genocide Machine
Disrupt - Unrest
Haemorrhage - Grume (I know, more like goregrind)
 
alright, you people might expect me to go on some big rant, but yeah.

grindcore is my favorite genre, it was a gateway genre for me into metal, so I hold it very dear. to say it has no talent means you're probably missing the point. grindcore never was about how well you can play your instrument, its about making the loudest racket in the shortest amount of time. I love pretty much all of it, from Assuck to Captain Cleanoff to Bathtub Shitter. I love the energy and its a shame you don't get it. oh well. its not for everyone.

grindcore is a punk genre as much as it is a metal genre. the reason metalheads dislike it is because it contains no guitar heroics and has strong punk influences.
 
I like a little bit of Goregrind and deathgrind, but I haven't really gotten into straight grindcore.

It bothers me a little that a lot of scene bands are claiming to be grindcore when they don't have anything to do with real grindcore. It just leads to ignorance and stupidity all around.
 
It bothers me a little that a lot of scene bands are claiming to be grindcore when they don't have anything to do with real grindcore. It just leads to ignorance and stupidity all around.

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Suicide Silence/Job For A Cowboy/wecamewithbrokenteeth/Waking The Cadaver is not Grindcore.

I'm not into much Grind but I generally know whats Grind and what's not.
 
ohiogrinder said it himself, "grindcore never was about how well you can play your instrument, its about making the loudest racket in the shortest amount of time."...that completely defends my point of talent not being required to make grindcore music. It's a sad time in music when people are getting record contracts because they can make the loudest racket in the shortest amount of time, as oppose to actually being able to play instruments...
 
That's your defense? Shut the fuck up? I can't help what i see...and i see a lot of bands making money off of shit because the standards of music have dropped dramatically in the past decade...

You have no fucking idea what you're talking about...
 
and i see a lot of bands making money off of shit because the standards of music have dropped dramatically in the past decade...

Yeah because Grind bands live such luxurious lives... :rolleyes:

Grindcore is suposed to be the most extreme form of music on the face of the Earth but still sound like music and is able to be played live.
 
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