Thanks for opening my eyes, Trapped, to the fact that all the stuff I like is bad! Now that you've proved that Iced Earth sucks, I guess I'll auction all my CDs on E-bay and listen to nothing but thrash-prog. After all, a guy I don't know on a message board said liking Iced Earth makes me an idiot, so he must be right.
Dude, YOU'RE the one who came into our home preaching about how Iced Earth is the better band, and i proved you wrong. Don't get upset and cry about it, why not respond in a mature way, like you asked of everyone else eh?
Well, I can't say I didn't know what I was getting into when I posted a message on the Nevermore board that disagreed with popular opinion. This is why there's no delete button here - you guys make sure than anybody who thinks something different than you feels like an idiot for doing so. Isn't the metal community supposed to be an open-minded, cool place where outcasts can come together? That's what I always thought, but maybe it's only because my experience has been with the Iced Earth board where that Nazi Neil rules with an iron fist.
Click the edit button dude, and you can delete everything you want. If you do so, you're a twat, because you're just admitting you made a stupid post... I didn't call you an idiot at all, i said you had no idea what you are talking about, especially when it comes to guitarwork... and that's not an insult, that's a fact dude. Don't take in to heart, take it like a man, and put something else to the table, some more ideas, a few more opinions. Don't come here and shout your opinions at me, and then whinge when i do the same back at you. Your post was all about your personal opinion, and that's cool, i simply posted the facts about the musicians in the bands, plus added my personal spin on it... i wasn't trying to make you feel like an idiot...
"A) I play drums. I know many drummers who think that Lars is good. Professional drummers. Studio drummers. Drum teachers. Take it up with them. "
Lars isn't a good drummer at all. THe "Studio drummers" obviously don't play metal, they play pop and rock, in which lars is a good drummer, but when it comes to metal, and drummers like Gene Hoglan.... you've got no idea.
"B) Saying that Barlow can't go deep is fairly ridiculous, but i'm not going to insult you for it. Just listen to "Alive In Athens." "
It's not rediculous at all dude... he can't sing low without losing control. Yes, he hit's the low notes, but he loses it, his voice breaks, and he warbles in and out of key. YOU listen to alive in athens for yourself and hear it dude...
"C) I will admit that Nevermore probably does have better lyrics...I engineered that to give IE an extra point. Then, after posting it, I realized "Hey, wait a minute! How can you apply quantitative analysis to a discussion about the quality of bands?"
It can apply quantitative analysis to a discussion about a quality of a band, because the lyrics are a big part of the bands, they aren't just a "Added touch", for a band like nevermore, the lyrics ARE a part of the music, and are worth analyzing... IE on the other hand, the lyrics are there just to take up space...
"D) I like music because I enjoy listening to it. Prog musicians, for instance, display amazing talent...but it's BORING. I want songs I can get into; and part of musical talent is knowing how to play stuff that people ENJOY. "
You are saying that 42147 and The Learning are boring? Dude, what are you even doing here on this message board? Would you say that Death's - Flesh and the power it holds is boring? Hell, that's a big statement to make, and a ridiculous one at that... There is catchy and memorable tech metal too dude, what about Cynic's Uroboric Forms, Atheist's Mineral or Elements, Symphony X's Fallen, or Egypt... Or Dream Theater's THe Mirror?
"E) If I want to dream, I'll sleep and have dreams of a metal community that actually lives up to our reputation of open-mindedness. "
Good to see you dream about what you might one day be. You totally shun progressive and tech metal, and that's totally closed minded, especially from an iced earth fan that can't see past the fact that there are better bands and better musicians out there.
You don't know us at all... I'm not closed minded at all, both me and ledmag, and i'm sure others are into stuff like Danzig and simple rock stuff too, you're barking up the wrong tree dude, go out and get some experience within the metal world, give some different music a listen and a chance, and you might find something you actually like...
I reccomend you read Lord of Metal's post too, it's great stuff. Some good points...
damn good, trapped! now what was that bit in the beginning about you leaving?
Yeah, it's true. I've already left the Opeth board permanently, I'm still posting here and reading PM's etc, but only a few times a week, i've got some stuff to sort out over here, and when everythings okay again, i'll come back... and post a pic of myself
Trapped, don't leave us, where else am I gonna learn about obscure technical death metal bands when you're gone?
Ha ha, i'm not leaving permanently, i've just gotta get my life in order, a job, a place to live... some food in the cupboards etc... on another note, i check out the "other" alchemist, the dude over your way, it's surprisingly good stuff... i like it! It's like ITP era death
And by the way, just if anyone is wondering, i do like Iced Earth. In fact, they're playing right now. I just don't see how you can say that Jon is a better rhythm player than Jeff, or Barlow is a better singer the Mr. Dane...
np - Iced Earth - Travel in stygian
.. and another thing, my post wasn't THAT huge, it's just because i wanted to quote everything the dude said, i wanted to have a say about everything he said...