Black Metal.

[CiG]

Rooooots, bloody roooots.

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

For some reason I think I should listen to more Roots...

 

[Master_Yoda77]

Post-SMRC DSO is some of the most profound extreme metal of the 21st century, with a brilliant merger of aesthetics, technicality, composition, and philosophical vision. Records like Fas and Paracletus are total works of art. If you don't get them, it's your loss/

Fair enough, but still

 

[CiG]

God that fucking neckbeard!

 

[Mort Divine]

Post-SMRC DSO is some of the most profound extreme metal of the 21st century, with a brilliant merger of aesthetics, technicality, composition, and philosophical vision. Records like Fas and Paracletus are total works of art. If you don't get them, it's your loss.

or its complete and total overly pretentious bullshit *shrug*

 

[crimsonfloyd]

or its complete and total overly pretentious bullshit *shrug*

Nope. Just beyond you.

 

[Mort Divine]

not beyond me in any way, black metal band trying to rip off gorguts

 

[CiG]

Boreguts.
Deathspell Omega tends to be too pretty for my taste, especially later era shit, it's the vibe of college knobheads with nice haircuts that think they're philosophers or something.
Keep all that artsy fartsy bohemianism shit for yourself, sit in your dimly lit room and jack off over your own superiority, I'm drinking beer and listening to Tormentor until I die.

 

[The Butt]

Post-SMRC Deathspell Omega has had some stinker moments (Fas for example), but mostly its been amazing, well thought-out and well-crafted artistic pieces. Paracletus and Drought in particular are extreme metal gems.

I mean, I enjoy the more traditional blend of BM as much as the next guy; in fact 99% of the time I prefer it. But dismissing later Deathspell Omega just because of a preconceived notion that it is wanky or some other bullshit is lame IMO. DSO is the one rare exception that makes me think "wow".

 

[CiG]

"Black Metal as art" is a concept that goes over my head 99% of the time, I will admit this.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

not beyond me in any way, black metal band trying to rip off gorguts

I love how you reduce being influenced by Gorguts to "ripping off" Gorguts. It just goes to show how base your ear is.

 

[The Butt]

Cassette: Honestly that's the reason I love black metal, in that even albums as stripped-down and barebones as, for example, Inquisitors of Satan, Hvis Lyset Tar Oss, Marrow of the Spirit; are more cerebral than 99% of other metal IMO.

Don't get me wrong I love me some poseur-killing, beer-chugging black-thrash, traditional, or death metal... I will never turn down good skull-crushing tunes. But introspective, atmospheric black metal is my main love.

 

[CiG]

Cassette: Honestly that's the reason I love black metal, in that even albums as stripped-down and barebones as, for example, Inquisitors of Satan, Hvis Lyset Tar Oss, Marrow of the Spirit; are more cerebral than 99% of other metal IMO.

Don't get me wrong I love me some poseur-killing, beer-chugging black-thrash, traditional, or death metal... I will never turn down good skull-crushing tunes. But introspective, atmospheric black metal is my main love.

Cerebral I can definitely agree with, I tend to feel like these "atmospheric" types of Black Metal bands aren't more cerebral than any other kind of Black Metal, for example I feel a lot more in Hellhammer than I do in Deathspell Omega, it's only that bands like Deathspell Omega are more blatant about it and as a result people treat them differently, in other words I think it's subjective.

Are you a Deafheaven fan?

 

[The Butt]

I dig parts of Roads to Judah (Violet is a cool song), but I wasn't big on Sunbather or whatever the fuck it was called. Well, I was at first but after two or three listens it lost a lot of replay value.

Even then, they're not really high up on stuff I listen to.

 

[CiG]

I can't fucking stand them.

I'm not prone to hypocrisy though, there are some atmosphere heavy Black Metal bands I do like, Striborg for instance.

 

[The Butt]

Tbh I'm big into the depressive stuff, like Abyssic Hate, Coldworld, Nekrokrist SS, Thy Light... but even then I'm really picky. Can't stand the recycled, utterly boring shit like Sterbend or Valefor.

 

[CiG]

Tbh I'm big into the depressive stuff, like Abyssic Hate, Coldworld, Nekrokrist SS, Thy Light... but even then I'm really picky. Can't stand the recycled, utterly boring shit like Sterbend or Valefor.

I've not delved much into that style, beyond some Xasthur and Happy Days my old housemate used to play.
I seem to remember Forgotten Tomb being okay.

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

Chiming in that Roads to Judah is pretty awesome. Sunbather, not so much.

 

[CiG]

Is there any "epic" Black Metal that isn't Summoning worship?
Trying to broaden some horizons.

 

[Draehl]

Is there any "epic" Black Metal that isn't Summoning worship?
Trying to broaden some horizons.

I'm sure you've probably heard them, but just in case- Moonsorrow's Verisakeet and Havitetty albums are pretty epic. A touch of folkiness there, but not over the top.