Black Metal.

[RedStorm]

Irrelevant to my comment champ.

i know what you meant, but its still black metal, it doesn't have to be recorded horribly and have vocals to be what it is

 

[Draehl]

Great song. We should really get together a "Most metal of non-metal" thread for shit like Wagner and this.

 

[CiG]

i know what you meant, but its still black metal, it doesn't have to be recorded horribly and have vocals to be what it is

I listened to it and liked it, but I don't really see how it's Black Metal.

 

[RedStorm]

I listened to it and liked it, but I don't really see how it's Black Metal.

it has that classic BM atmosphere to it though, the ominous sound

 

[CiG]

it has that classic BM atmosphere to it though, the ominous sound

Black Metal, seems to me the last bit is just as important as the first bit, or can I just go around calling eerie OSTs Black Metal now? Haha, Black Metal can exist without atmosphere, it however cannot exist without Metal.

If this track didn't exist in the context of a Black Metal album nobody would be even considering dubbing it Black Metal.

 

[RedStorm]

Black Metal, seems to me the last bit is just as important as the first bit, or can I just go around calling eerie OSTs Black Metal now? Haha, Black Metal can exist without atmosphere, it however cannot exist without Metal.

If this track didn't exist in the context of a Black Metal album nobody would be even considering dubbing it Black Metal.

This is true but what do you classify these pseudo ambient black metal bands as then?
would they be black metal inspired?

 

[CiG]

This is true but what do you classify these pseudo ambient black metal bands as then?
would they be black metal inspired?

Give me an example.

 

[RedStorm]

this is a song from a split with a band called lustre the album is called "moon flares"

 

[CiG]

this is a song from a split with a band called lustre the album is called "moon flares"

The other song at least had a guitar, that wasn't even in the realm of Rock music.

The fuck?

 

[RedStorm]

yes but it has the black metal sound, like the melancholic feel to it

 

[CiG]

I completely disagree, anybody passing that particular track off as Black Metal is just...

While I accept that feeling and atmosphere play a big part in what is and isn't Black Metal (which is why bands like Mercyful Fate are credited with laying Black Metal foundations when they don't sound anything like other 80's foundational bands) there at the very least MUST be Metal in the mix, that could just as likely be on a fucking Jean Michel Jarre record.

 

[RedStorm]

I completely disagree, anybody passing that particular track off as Black Metal is just...

While I accept that feeling and atmosphere play a big part in what is and isn't Black Metal (which is why bands like Mercyful Fate are credited with laying Black Metal foundations when they don't sound anything like other 80's foundational bands) there at the very least MUST be Metal in the mix, that could just as likely be on a fucking Jean Michel Jarre record.

yeah, i guess i agree but i just don't know what to call it, blackened edm? lol

 

[Slayed Necros]

yes but it has the black metal sound, like the melancholic feel to it

You don't have the slightest inkling of what you're talking about.

That Branikald song is cool but it's not even metal. Come on.

 

[RedStorm]

You don't have the slightest inkling of what you're talking about.

That Branikald song is cool but it's not even metal. Come on.

what does it sound like to you then? its a guy tremolo picking his guitar by himself, what else could it be?

 

[CiG]

Well, I wouldn't use the term EDM to describe anything as it's a double negative (well, not necessarily a double negative but you get my point), stupid ass American made up term, Dance music already IS electronic.

 

[RedStorm]

Well, I wouldn't use the term EDM to describe anything as it's a double negative, stupid ass American made up term, Dance music already IS electronic.

well, don't know shit about electronic music so I'm sure you're right

 

[CiG]

It's a pretty common faux-pas, also unimportant distinction in general I guess, but one that irritates me for whatever reason.

I don't really know what I'd call that Elderwind track, Ambient as a general label but Dark Ambient more specifically? That's my opinion anyway.

Btw I quite liked it, cheers!

 

[RedStorm]

yeah definitely a great track for what it is, glad you liked it! later man

 

[CiG]

I'm eatin' what you're cookin'

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

Less time classifying and more time listening. It's just better that way.