Controversial Opeth Opinions
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Amorosa Dulce
Inner Beauty
MAYH and Still Life are really amazingly boring for me. I tried to get into those two albums, but I never could. I actually LOVE the first two Opeth albums, and after MAYH and Still Life, I love all the other albums (even the new one) EXCEPT Ghost Reveries. Ghost Reveries didn't sound like Opeth to me.
The Funeral Portrait in Blackwater Park is completely unlistenable; if I listen to it, it completely ruins the entire album for me. In Morningrise, I think The Night and The Silent Water is overrated and I could not like it.
I always skip the first song (Coil ugh lol) of the Watershed album when listening to it entirely. By The Pain I See In Others makes Deliverance sound strange (the ending). Mikael could have made a better ending to the album, but then again, they didn't have much time, and Deliverance is the album that got me into Opeth; it is so damn amazing for something that took soo little time to make.
Mellotron Heart is DEMENTED. I cannot listen to it.
omg finally im done.
The Funeral Portrait in Blackwater Park is completely unlistenable; if I listen to it, it completely ruins the entire album for me. In Morningrise, I think The Night and The Silent Water is overrated and I could not like it.
I always skip the first song (Coil ugh lol) of the Watershed album when listening to it entirely. By The Pain I See In Others makes Deliverance sound strange (the ending). Mikael could have made a better ending to the album, but then again, they didn't have much time, and Deliverance is the album that got me into Opeth; it is so damn amazing for something that took soo little time to make.
Mellotron Heart is DEMENTED. I cannot listen to it.
omg finally im done.
Nasty-Fire
Discursion
^ I guess it's already hard to define what the "Opeth" sound is. So yeah, Ghost Reveries doesn't looks like Opeth, but which album does?
hexwind
Creepiness Och Terrorism
Watershed has the feeling of the end of spring, and the beginning of summer, May. I could feel it these days and during all the fall/winter/spring i remember last May coz then i first heard this album. I love it.
Amorosa Dulce
Inner Beauty
Ghost Reveries sounds really weird. I don't know how to describe it. It could have been less... How do I say it; it has a sort of "heaviness" that is unattractive, that is, coming from Opeth. Opeth is more tranquil, they keep their melody alive, instead of putting riffs everywhere (like in The Funeral Portrait, Demon of the Fall). The Grand Conjuration, Ghost of Perdition, etc... All the songs in the Ghost Reveries album just didn't do it for me. It had a sound that didn't sound like it was them. Somehow though, they redeemed themselves with Watershed. I think Watershed is good. Not phenomenal, but it's a good listen.
Honestly I don't feel that I'm required to associate albums with any season whatsoever, and thus I don't feel any seasonal atmosphere in Watershed. There's definitely an atmosphere, imo, but I can't quite pin down what it is.
To rid you disease
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in the D&D documentary, steven wilson is doing some aaahs and says like no problem, ill fix it with the tuner. im sure it was used to help during the aahs in ghost of perdition as well. and while at it, why not use it some more? mike for example said the producer on GR wanted to tune every chord etc. but yea, i doubt its a britney spears thick level of auto-tuner allover the place
Brave.Archangel
Inside the City of Glass
I like Dream Theater, but I think Petrucci's playing is dull, emotionless, lacking dynamics, show off-y, overt, annoying, and narcissistic. I would take Mike or Peter's playing any day over his. Speed isn't everything. Same goes for Portnoy
wwallinga
Working on #3
I'm starting to dislike the outros on several recent songs. From Watershed, I really don't like the end of HA, TLE, or HP. I used to hate the end of Burden too, but it has grown on me. When I hear things like this I think to myself, just finish the goddamn song.
I'm also getting sick of the backwards lyrics. BTPISIO was experimental, so I was okay with it. But it just sounds stupid in HP. Just sing the goddamn song.
I'm also getting sick of the backwards lyrics. BTPISIO was experimental, so I was okay with it. But it just sounds stupid in HP. Just sing the goddamn song.
I'd care if he a-tuned his voice live.
if he does it on studio is completely acceptable
BUT WHAT YOU'VE JUST SAID IS PURE HERESY AND THEREFORE YOU SHOULD BE CONDEMNED.
in the D&D documentary, steven wilson is doing some aaahs and says like no problem, ill fix it with the tuner. im sure it was used to help during the aahs in ghost of perdition as well. and while at it, why not use it some more? mike for example said the producer on GR wanted to tune every chord etc. but yea, i doubt its a britney spears thick level of auto-tuner allover the place
That's nice, unless Mikael miraculously turned into Steve Wilson, this does not affect anything.
You have to listen to Dream Theater before you made a comment like that
haha jokes
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Deliverance (The Song) is amazing until the last 5 minutes where it becomes unlistenable.. Can someone tell me if I have missed anything here :S
Ghost Reveries is one of the most solid Opeth album yet but individually the tracks are nothing special...
Orchid as an album is horrible yet is filled with fantastic tracks!
Ghost Reveries is one of the most solid Opeth album yet but individually the tracks are nothing special...
Orchid as an album is horrible yet is filled with fantastic tracks!
Crono101
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Really? I think the endings are super important to the album's atmosphere as a whole. Without the strange, anxiety-provoking outros (which did exactly what they were meant to do for you), the album wouldn't be as strange and ethereal as it is. That album was meant to be listened to whole.
Last 3 minutes of Deliverance being unlistenable would be understandable. I fast-forward myself sometimes if I only have a limited time in the car to hear good music...after a one cycle you've heard the last 4 minutes...it's still pretty amazing though. Last 5 minutes? That solo and the acoustic part are two of the best parts of the song
And the other two points make absolutely no sense. The only Opeth album that has most of its strength in the album as a whole and not in individual tracks really is MAYH, and if an album is filled with fantastic tracks, how can it be horrible? I guess if you pad said awesome tracks with bad tracks (see "Watershed")..
Completely agree with everything here except I sorta like the TLE ending. With HA/HP though...yea I'm getting tired of those weird volume swell endings or whatever they are.
winters epilogue
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Pretty much this. Given the quality of songs on Watershed (dynamically speaking), I feel like Axe's parts are easily on par (if not better) than anything Lopez did up until Ghost Reveries (which is the only album I think Lopez really shines).
Axe has only gotten better with the band and continues to adapt to the older tracks. I have a feeling we'll really get a chance to see what Axe can do with the next record...
* Deliverance has my least favorite "high" death growls of all the albums as it feels like Mike can't really keep the growl (example: Wreath @ 2:45 and on during the words "night," "behind," "visions," etc)
* While I don't care for Serenity Painted Death simply stopping, I love when they did it on Closure
* The only section that really bugs me in Black Rose Immortal is the line "you are in a forest unknown" @ 11:40...and it has since the first time I heard Morningrise
* I enjoy Ghost Reveries more than My Arms, Your Hearse.
And Lopez wasn't all that amazing on his Opeth debut, MAYH. He was just a good drummer on a good album (unlike Nordin, who was a meh drummer on good albums). Lopez started really coming into his own on Blackwater Park, and became the perfect Opeth drummer on Deliverence and Ghost Reveries (Damnation was good, too, but... not really an Opeth album IMO).
I just hope Axe has that same ability to adapt the way Lopez did over his tenure with the band. Most drummers can't when they're at the level Axe is at and have an established style, but we'll see.
All you people constantly ragging on Watershed are making me worried. I hope the band doesn't revert back to their old direction because of you guys. Their old stuff was great, but they've already been there. If you don't like the new direction so much, maybe it's time to leave Opeth behind? Because Watershed is brilliant, but it's just not for you guys.
I just hope Axe has that same ability to adapt the way Lopez did over his tenure with the band. Most drummers can't when they're at the level Axe is at and have an established style, but we'll see.
All you people constantly ragging on Watershed are making me worried. I hope the band doesn't revert back to their old direction because of you guys. Their old stuff was great, but they've already been there. If you don't like the new direction so much, maybe it's time to leave Opeth behind? Because Watershed is brilliant, but it's just not for you guys.
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