Death Metal

[Sedition and Pockets]

no, it would just make you a tasteless retard since Symbolic is one of the greatest death metal albums of all time

I dunno dude, that record is fucking gay as fuck, and I'm pretty sure I'm the expert on that here.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

I dunno dude, that record is fucking gay as fuck, and I'm pretty sure I'm the expert on that here.

nah, that would be Ozz. You're the expert on crossdressing ... so i can see why you wouldn't enjoy one of the most respected metal albums of all time. You're just one of those "LOOK IM SO TRVE" clowns.

 

[Slammed]

An expert in gay? Yeah right, there is straight people on this forum who have more expertise on the subject!

 

[Sophii]

C'est moi, monsieur.

 

[Allfader]

Am I a hipster if I say I fucking hate Symbolic? It always feels like really simplistic songs dressed up in fancy fingerwork. I just don't trust non-inverted cross Death.

If you can't appreciate the songwriting on Symbolic, it's your total loss.

 

[Sedition and Pockets]

An expert in gay? Yeah right, there is straight people on this forum who have more expertise on the subject!

Well shit, if I'd known this place had gotten so queer, I might have waited less than 13 years to come back around!

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Symbolic sucks beacuse the songwriting is sooooo simplistic ... goes on and praises Bestial Devastation. What a fucking clown

 

[Slammed]

Well shit, if I'd known this place had gotten so queer, I might have waited less than 13 years to come back around!

I'm sure it was our loss that you haven't been around.

 

[Sedition and Pockets]

If you can't appreciate the songwriting on Symbolic, it's your total loss.

I prefer my death metal to be structured narratively, or at least try to hide the recursive verse/chorus structures a little more artfully. I don't like Chuck's vocal performance on the album. I don't like that the riffing regressed toward speed metal/thrash metal (whatever you wanna call it). I don't like the overly scrubbed mix; it's too clean and pretty. I don't like the consonance of the internal progressions. There's no darkness, there's no evil, there's no blood and guts in it. The playing is world class. Individual pieces of songs are sometimes cool in isolation, but the whole package feels sugary sweet to my ears, and I just don't like it.

Human is pretty damn good, though.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

yea because early Death didn't have thrashy riffs, amirite? this dude cannot be for real.

Human is their weakest album.

oh and as far as subgenres go ... thrash metal = king of riffs

 

[Sedition and Pockets]

Symbolic sucks beacuse the songwriting is sooooo simplistic ... goes on and praises Bestial Devastation. What a fucking clown

This shit is relative to what you're trying to accomplish. Bestial Devastation doesn't need to be complex. It's basically an exploration of violence and force at a purely visceral level. Symbolic wants to be fancypants, but doesn't carry that past the superficial level of surface aesthetic. Horses for courses, man.

 

[Sophii]

Symbolic's probably the tightest Death has been to be honest. Their last album is above and beyond any tech death/prog death album though I think. The Flesh and the Power it Holds is such a strong track. Spirit Crusher keeps me on my toes every time.

 

[Sedition and Pockets]

yea because early Death didn't have thrashy riffs, amirite? this dude cannot be for real.

Context matters. 1987 vs 1995.

Human is their weakest album.

You're welcome to that opinion.

oh and as far as subgenres go ... thrash metal = king of riffs

And this one, too.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

This shit is relative to what you're trying to accomplish. Bestial Devastation doesn't need to be complex. It's basically an exploration of violence and force at a purely visceral level. Symbolic wants to be fancypants, but doesn't carry that past the superficial level of surface aesthetic. Horses for courses, man.

you're a moron. One of the reasons you said you dislike that Death album is because supposedly(and a pretty damn ridiculous claim at that) "the songwriting is too simplistic", while at the same time praising one of the most simplistic death/thrash releases. I think those hormone pills you're taking have damaged your already feeble mind.

 

[Sophii]

Need moar apple ale to pair with Scandinavian classicks.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Context matters. 1987 vs 1995.

no it absolutely doesn't, especially here. Thrashy riffs have always been a part of "pre inverted" Death. But i get it, not admitting to how clueless you are on some of these subjects and trying to shift goalposts seem to be your signature moves. You should go back to the UM forums.

 

[CiG]

 

[Sedition and Pockets]

you're a moron. One of the reasons you said you dislike that Death album is because supposedly(and a pretty damn ridiculous claim at that) "the songwriting is too simplistic", while at the same time praising one of the most simplistic death/thrash releases. I think those hormone pills you're taking have damaged your already feeble mind.

It's a question of matching means to motive. The goal of making a record is to communicate something, not just preserve a collection of sounds. Early Sepultura communicates something through its direct and violent urgency that would be lost on a more complex record. Symbolic takes highly complex discrete elements and then just sends them around in circles.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Smh, this guy is hopeless. Did i imply that early Sepultura would need to be more complex in order to be as enjoyable?

 

[CiG]

Human is their weakest album.

For me that would be Spiritual Healing. Great album though.

It's basically an exploration of violence and force at a purely visceral level.

You're accusing Death of superficiality yet you say something as pretentious as this? That split material wasn't any kind of "exploration" it was a band of kids copying their influences in a very primitive way because they were bored and their country sucked.

I just don't trust non-inverted cross Death.

It's a question of matching means to motive. The goal of making a record is to communicate something, not just preserve a collection of sounds. Early Sepultura communicates something through its direct and violent urgency that would be lost on a more complex record. Symbolic takes highly complex discrete elements and then just sends them around in circles.