DragonForce and Trivium in Terrorizer - a few things worthy of discussion

[Erik]

off the top of my head

summoning "where hope and daylight die"
agalloch "as embers dress the sky"

well kinda. so yes!

 

[General Zod]

I think it's only appropriate that you should take endless criticism of liking Trivium.

Bring it. If taking shit for it bothered me, I would have shut my pie-hole 40 posts ago.

Oh . . . and Shadows Fall KILLS Trivium.

I actually think Shadows Fall may be the worst band on the planet.

An excellent place to start would be Earth Crisis. They knew what the word was on awesome riffs, plus their vocals were fuckin' excellent.

Heard of them, never heard their music. Recommend something by them and I'll check it out.

Zod

 

[Dark One]

off the top of my head

summoning "where hope and daylight die"
agalloch "as embers dress the sky"

well kinda. so yes!

Excellent, so you do have at least a "partial" open mind about it. And that's the way I always try to go about my listening habits, with a "partially" open mind. I admit, it's EXTREMELY hard to not be influenced by other's opinions or even my own feelings about something in general in one way or another, but I do try my best.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

More thoughts:

Shadows Fall cannot possibly be the "worst band" on any planet that still contains Trivium.

Hardcore vocals - and this is near-impossible for me to describe in writing - are kind of like "sucking in of all your breath while bellowing." Does that make sense? It's a "barking-like" sound. It sucks. Unless paired with actual hardcore music, in which case, at least it belongs. Take Lamb of God for example; I've always maintained that musically they pretty much rip. Their riffs are as good as anyone's of late. But those vocals! They suck!

Death metal growls are FAR MORE varied, they can be more high-pitched (a la Jeff Walker of Carcass), they can be the deepest of growls (a la Karl of Nile), they can be a mix of the 2 (a la Maurizio of Kataklysm), etc. Far more talent goes into your "standard" death metal growl than the shitty hardcore barking.

 

[KILL TULLY]

off the top of my head

summoning "where hope and daylight die"
agalloch "as embers dress the sky"

well kinda. so yes!

And Carnivore rules and they have hardcore vocals, so everyone can just fuck off, we're open minded as fuck =).

 

[Nate The Great]

Heard of them, never heard their music. Recommend something by them and I'll check it out.

Zod

I'd check out Earth Crisis 'Gomorah's Seasons End' or 'Breed the Killers'. Lots of songs about polution and eating vegetables and not meat.

I could post some samples latter if you'd like. I saw Earth Crisis live and they were EASILY one of the best live bands I've ever seen. Too bad they broke up.

 

[Jim LotFP]

eating vegetables and not meat.

Diet metal.

 

[KILL TULLY]

Diet metal.

+ Straight Edge

 

[Nate The Great]

At the Earth Crisis show I went to, Earth Crisis was drinking bottled water and the other bands were drinking beer and shit.

 

[cthulufhtagn]

I'm not comparing them musically... obviously. I'm merely pointing out that Priest's image was contrived.

Zod

and i was agreeing, read again. what i'm saying is judas priest didn't wear motorhead and van halen shirts at every interview and seem to spend an inordinate amount of time talking about how much they love budgie and zeppelin

 

[IOfTheStorm]

Judas Priest's image was more a "sign of the times" rather than something contrived.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

and i was agreeing, read again. what i'm saying is judas priest didn't wear motorhead and van halen shirts at every interview and seem to spend an inordinate amount of time talking about how much they love budgie and zeppelin

Exactly. Priest DEFINED that very scene, and the image that is NOW associated with it.

 

[JayKeeley]

I love how when Zod gets cornered, he resorts to low blows.

 

[General Zod]

Exactly. Priest DEFINED that very scene, and the image that is NOW associated with it.

That may be, but that doesn't mean the image wasn't contrived. Somehow, I doubt they dressed like that in their every day life. And if those weren't their everyday clothes, than by definition, it was a contrived look.

Zod

 

[General Zod]

I love how when Zod gets cornered, he resorts to low blows.

Who... me?

Come on, the Hammers thing was funny.

Zod

 

[JayKeeley]

Who... me?

Come on, the Hammers thing was funny.

Zod

It was brilliant!! But I didn't take the bait you dirty vunt.

It was funny when Jason addressed the Motley Crue thing though.

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

That may be, but that doesn't mean the image wasn't contrived. Somehow, I doubt they dressed like that in their every day life. And if those weren't their everyday clothes, than by definition, it was a contrived look.

Zod

Given what we now know about Mr. Halford, are you certain? ha ha

 

[MadeInNewJersey]

It was funny when Jason addressed the Motley Crue thing though.

I'm glad SOMEONE saw the hilarity of that!

 

[cthulufhtagn]

That may be, but that doesn't mean the image wasn't contrived. Somehow, I doubt they dressed like that in their every day life. And if those weren't their everyday clothes, than by definition, it was a contrived look.

Zod

we're in agreement here dude, there's no argument priest have a contrived image. but at least it's their own image, is the point.

 

[General Zod]

we're in agreement here dude, there's no argument priest have a contrived image. but at least it's their own image, is the point.

True.

Zod