Exclusive: DISSECTION Frontman JON NÖDTVEIDT Commits Suicide - Aug. 18, 2006

Fuck you people...honestly, here's only very few people I can see, that understands this as whole. What are your believes? Get stoned and suck in life? Maybe harsh words, but so what...

EDIT - Just to clarify where I stand, new Agalloch is boring, old Agalloch is boring, Reinkaos rules and so does the old stuff!

~666~
 
Well, part of my beliefs would include not getting stony-faced and butt-hurt over dudes joking around on an internet forum known for bad taste jokes and ribbing.

Yeah, sucks that the guy's dead, much as it sucks when pretty much anyone dies. Not gonna let it fuck with my day though.

If you feel like answering the 'so, how does suicide fit in with the Luciferian beliefs' question I posed a few posts back before being diverted by an entertaining bantering session, I'm always interested in learning new things.
 
I go to work every day. I pay my bills. I'm nice to my mother. I don't go around killing someone because they don't hold the same belief structure that I do.
 
M.Lehto said:
Fuck you people...honestly, here's only very few people I can see, that understands this as whole. What are your believes? Get stoned and suck in life? Maybe harsh words, but so what...

EDIT - Just to clarify where I stand, new Agalloch is boring, old Agalloch is boring, Reinkaos rules and so does the old stuff!

~666~

WTF?

Understands this as a whole? what are we missing?

I had a lot of people die in my personal life ... a convicted lowlife musician offing himself ain't getting much repect from me and seems not many others.

2 RIP's in 60 or so posts ...
 
dill_the_devil said:
Well, part of my beliefs would include not getting stony-faced and butt-hurt over dudes joking around on an internet forum known for bad taste jokes and ribbing.

Yeah, sucks that the guy's dead, much as it sucks when pretty much anyone dies. Not gonna let it fuck with my day though.

Yes, I have no humour in some cases, however I like the atmosphere of this forum, I like most of the people and Jay, but in some cases it's just like visiting Mike Portnoy-forum. "please pray for my relationship, don't say anything bad about my future girlfriend..." Things like "he deserved his destiny as a murderer" is utter bullshit, he had a vision, that none of the "life haters" in this forum can achieve".
 
Yeah, sucks that the guy's dead, much as it sucks when pretty much anyone dies. Not gonna let it fuck with my day though.
it's not about that, it's about recognizing that it is rather admirable for a man to follow his principles, not always choose the easy way, and even die for what he believes in -- people don't stand their ground and stick to their guns enough these days and when someone does, they get ridiculed. it's shit, frankly

but at this point it is pure speculation to say WHY the man killed himself (as will it remain for pretty much eternity because asking a dead man about things is hard) so i wouldn't be so quick to attribute any sort of "meaning" to this death linked to jon's beliefs.



p.s. reinkaos sucks

p.p.s. agalloch rules

p.p.p.s. i will bet any amount that mr. lehto is drunk at the moment cause he's always drunk when he posts like this
 
I just re-read the whole thread, and didn't see one person saying 'he deserved his destiny as a murderer'. We got the news, speculated over its credibility, said we didn't see it coming, then a few of us had a light-hearted giggle about the idea of Jon, Dime and Milli Vanilli in heaven. If you're taking that seriously at all, perhaps you should step away from the keyboard for a while.

Also, still interested in learning more about the Luciferian angle.
 
dill_the_devil said:
Also, still interested in learning more about the Luciferian angle.
Yeah, me too. If this is some sort of Glen Benton thing but actually carried out I'll likely ponder it for a few minutes, make fun of it for a few hours, and then the next day think about it in a more serious manner before making fun of it a few more times. But I am curious.
 
NADatar said:
Yeah, me too. If this is some sort of Glen Benton thing but actually carried out I'll likely ponder it for a few minutes, make fun of it for a few hours, and then the next day think about it in a more serious manner before making fun of it a few more times. But I am curious.
glen benton is a faggot that never in his life believed in anything he ever said about satanism. now, mlo is very unappealing to me personally, but i can respect a man that actually practices what he preaches and takes himself and his ideology seriously. jon did that.
 
Erik said:
p.p.p.s. i will bet any amount that mr. lehto is drunk at the moment cause he's always drunk when he posts like this


hahaha....sounds like me. If I go on a wicked dickhead posting spree, it means I was drunk. :lol:

Anyways, I dont understand the argument. How is his suicide honorable and how does it coincide with Satanism? I'm a little ignorant to the whole situation so please elaborate.
 
Erik said:
it's not about that, it's about recognizing that it is rather admirable for a man to follow his principles, not always choose the easy way, and even die for what he believes in -- people don't stand their ground and stick to their guns enough these days and when someone does, they get ridiculed. it's shit, frankly

I got your meaning. I see Jon as a real martyr, altough that sounds like shit.

Erik said:
but at this point it is pure speculation to say WHY the man killed himself (as will it remain for pretty much eternity because asking a dead man about things is hard) so i wouldn't be so quick to attribute any sort of "meaning" to this death linked to jon's beliefs.

Some rumours says, that also someone else within MLO died, so I guess this was about their believes.

Erik said:
p.s. reinkaos sucks
Take a week and listen the record eveyday, then say the same.

Erik said:
p.p.s. agalloch rules
I've tried so hard, listened many songs, but no...

Erik said:
p.p.p.s. i will bet any amount that mr. lehto is drunk at the moment cause he's always drunk when he posts like this

Well well, I've had some beers :p Everything I write is about what I think, but maybe a bit boosted...