If you could change a thing

[Eligos]

I would remove the riff concessions from a number of albums that are weakened by such conventions, Elvenefris and Colors both serving as prime examples, and either replace them with actual transitions or leave those weak riffs out when necessary.

Not every band is as good at riff streaming as Coroner and The Chasm, and too many of them reach for that level of skill and fall very, very short.

 

[CF87]

It would be nice if Cynic would stop making gay music.

Focus is good, but I do not like what they do now. Cynic came out of the closet so chances are they are going to continue making gay music. Not to sound like an asshole or anything.

 

[waif]

I think Kirk was the one they could most afford to lose at the time tbh. The other three were huge creative forces behind the band's sound and their status was such that they could have picked any lead player they wanted.

I feel like Kirk gets a lot of hate, but that dude fucking ripped back in the day. People criticize him for not being as technical as Dave, but his leads are a lot more memorable. I think his more melodic lead style really fit their direction on RtL and MoP. Not too huge on his work on Justice and later stuff.

Focus is good, but I do not like what they do now. Cynic came out of the closet so chances are they are going to continue making gay music. Not to sound like an asshole or anything.

I don't get the sense that they were ever that interested in metal. I don't really know why they're so popular, tbh. Focus is cool, but not that great.

 

[Satanstoenail]

I feel like Kirk gets a lot of hate, but that dude fucking ripped back in the day. People criticize him for not being as technical as Dave, but his leads are a lot more memorable. I think his more melodic lead style really fit their direction on RtL and MoP. Not too huge on his work on Justice and later stuff.

I don't think he's a bad guitarist at all. He's the one they could most afford to lose was my point. The band pretty much died with Cliff imo.

I don't get the sense that they were ever that interested in metal. I don't really know why they're so popular, tbh. Focus is cool, but not that great.

I used to love Focus but I have no desire to listen to it anymore. It has dated really badly and the vocoder vocals can fuck off. Unquestionable Presence on the other hand I crank pretty regularly.

 

[The Butt]

Some day--and it may not be until you are lying on your deathbed- you will realize I was right about everything.

You'd have to... you know... actually be right first though.

 

[J.]

-Fix the garbage guitar tone on Graveland's Thousand Swords.

I love graveland....in a totally gay way. i totally agree with this. i should worship this album, but as it stands ftvob, m&d, and fcod are his masterpieces.

-Have Dead do the vocals on DMDS instead of Atilla

HA. this was what i was gonna say. live in liepzig is so much better

 

[The Butt]

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[no country for old wainds]

i seriously think THOUSAND SWORDS has one of the greatest guitar tones i've ever heard, completely organic and ancient sounding and unique and perfect. i've absolutely adored that album for as long as i can remember, it's like he suddenly randomly tapped into a higher power for arguably the first and only time (or just took a shitload of peyote... who knows?). i mean i really dig a lot of graveland stuff, but that thing is just way beyond for me.

 

[The Butt]

I actually really agree. I mean I love Graveland, but Thousand Swords is something special.

 

[SoundMaster]

Candlemass. Only if they used some harsh vocals..



Yeah really. This retarded cliche that bad quality makes your work sound more badass really needs to die.

Nah. Harsh vocals would instantly turn those classic songs geigh.

 

[SoundMaster]

I'd remove most of Grutle's rasping vocals on Vertebrae.

Indeed. In fact, they should be removed from everything since (and including) 'Monumensium".

 

[crimsonfloyd]

You'd have to... you know... actually be right first though.

Says the guy who was drooling over my DSO post. Game, set, match :Smokedev:

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

The Metallica chatter on pg 1 is interesting. The obvious fact is that it's easy to bash Metallica and all the members for numerous reasons. But no denying the early material. And Ulrich may not be the best drummer, or even close, but saying that the band 'wrote around his limitations' is pure conjecture. There is absolutely no evidence to back that up. Besides, look at the writing credits on the early stuff. The vast, vast majority were written by Hetfield AND Ulrich. So, hate as you will, but remember that he is partly responsible for putting together classics like AJFA and MOP.

Anyway, the one thing I would change without a doubt is the absolutely horrific transition by In Flames from literally perfect melodeath to absolutely garbage post Clayman. Just an atrocious, sad, descent into the mainstream.

 

[The Butt]

I would make remasters never exist in metal. Ever.

Says the guy who was drooling over my DSO post. Game, set, match :Smokedev:

Even the mundane sometime have glimmers of genius.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

Even the mundane sometime have glimmers of genius

So I've heard. I'll let you know if and when you do it.

 

[tagradh]

Candlemass. Only if they used some harsh vocals..



Yeah really. This retarded cliche that bad quality makes your work sound more badass really needs to die.

Probably just as big a cliche that the musicians actually think in the way listeners (who all too often have never recorded anything themselves) claim they do.

 

[CF87]

Lars Ulrich is fitting for what Metallica does and I do not see anything wrong with the drums on Kill Em All or Ride The Lighting. Metallica is not even good after the black album anyways so who cares. It is the same with Slayer. I'm not saying Gene Hoglan is not a great drummer, but there are plenty of random drummers in metal music that are good if not better than him, he's not the greatest drummer by any means.

 

[MoSeN]

Probably just as big a cliche that the musicians actually think in the way listeners (who all too often have never recorded anything themselves) claim they do.

Except that's not exactly a cliche and if you actually believe all these bands releasing stuff with low sound quality were actually low on the budget then I can't even be bothered discussing this any further.
I record my very own band's stuff in our own studio and we've seen and worked with quite a few bands with that mentality. So I'm not exactly your typical listener here.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

Metallica is not even good after AJFA anyways so who cares.

Fixed

 

[Bloopy]

Aside from saving Cliff, if I changed one thing about Metallica, I'd probably just erase The Black Album from existence. Then as I'm staring at my copy of Death Magnetic, The Unforgiven III would just fade off the track list like the photos in Back To The Future.

Make it so Dave Mustaine became a satanist instead of a Christian.

Black Sabbath to have never made any albums with Tony Martin, and more with Glenn Hughes or just about anyone else they could've chosen.

Candlemass might as well have tried harsh vocals after the first 4 albums, because everything since has been fairly unremarkable.