Metal's Most Maligned Sub-Genres (And The People That Listen To Them)

AchrisK said:
You guys are all retarded. System of a Down's first few albums are killer. They were unique, and quirky, but that were also very musical. Believe you me, I do not align myself with them ideologically at all, and I am no teeny bopper. I am an old man. Before I heard SOAD I just assumed they sucked. When I heard Toxicity, I was very surprised at how much I like the music/vocals. Sure, we all claim that our favorite "uncool" band is different... whatever. I like them.
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I borrowed Toxicity from a friend of mine to give it a chance. Honestly couldn't sit through it. Annoying, retarded noise.
 
NocturnalNemesis said:
Hahahe how many times do I have to say I don't really like the new SOAD, only the only stuff? :rolleyes:
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THE KOMBUCHA MUSHROOM PEOPLE SITTING AROUND ALL DAY
WHO CAN BELIEVE YOU WHO CAN BELIEVE YOU LET YOUR MOTHER PRAY

SUGAR

SUGAR

HOW DO I FEEL WHAT DO I SAY FUCK YOU IT ALL GOES AWAY
HOW DO I FEEL WHAT DO I SAY FUCK YOU IT ALL GOES AWAY
HOW DO I FEEL WHAT DO I SAY IN THE END IT ALL GOES AWAY
HOW DO I FEEL WHAT DO I SAY IN THE END IT ALL GOES AWAY
HOW DO I FEEL WHAT DO I SAY IN THE END IT ALL GOES AWAY
HOW DO I FEEL WHAT DO I SAY IN THE END IT ALL GOES AWAY
HOW DO I FEEL WHAT DO I SAY IN THE END IT ALL GOES AWAY
HOW DO I FEEL WHAT DO I SAY IN THE END IT ALL GOES AWAY
IN THE END IT ALL GOES AWAY IN THE END IT ALL GOES AWAY
 
Toxicity is actually a good album. It just has a lot of catchy and well written songs. That being said, Serj's vocals are still atrocious, SOAD's politics are nothing but neo-Marxist angst, and most of the rest of their songs are either mediocre or just plain bad.
 
Anyway, anyone seen Motley Crue recently? They've still got it but it's weird now that they're all cleaned up. Feels like "Snakes And Barrels" from "Metalocalypse."
 
Last time I saw Motley Crue (about 4 years ago? whenever they were supporting Aerosmith), they were pretty awful. I don't know what the issue was but Vince Neil was hardly singing, mostly just shouting and cursing into a mic :/
 
I saw them just under 2 years ago headlining with no openers and it was eerily G-rated, maybe because Japanese people don't understand English so it's pointless to try and talk about stuff to the audience. They just played their most popular songs and everyone loved it.

They also couldn't pronounce "Fukuoka" which was a humorous fail. If I were in a band I'd at least learn how to pronounce city names...
 
AchrisK said:
You guys are all retarded. System of a Down's first few albums are killer. They were unique, and quirky, but that were also very musical. Believe you me, I do not align myself with them ideologically at all, and I am no teeny bopper. I am an old man. Before I heard SOAD I just assumed they sucked. When I heard Toxicity, I was very surprised at how much I like the music/vocals. Sure, we all claim that our favorite "uncool" band is different... whatever. I like them.
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Preach it brother :Smokin:
I particularly like the songs where System Of A Down talk about how the media influences and controls people, as a former media student I know just how true this is...

"A pyramid mind-fuck - don't leave your seats now!" (CUBErt)
"Advertising causes need therapy" (Chic 'N Stu)

There's many more but I can't remember them off-hand right now...
 
NocturnalNemesis said:
S.O.A.D has more creativity and originality than a lot of the metal that is sometimes bandied around here, much of it just being one band trying to copy others, not really doing anything different or interesting or unique. Enter S.O.A.D. with a unique metal performance style that was (in the beginning) as fresh a morning breeze in an old stuffy library. Naturally some open-minded people, jaded with the run-of-the-mill norm, became big fans of this new unique kind of metal. But of course the traditionalists still sit back in the their imaginary well-worn thrones of repetition, staunchly and dogmatically decreeing that good metal can only be performed in this way and no other. Just goes to show that metal institutions and adherents can sometimes be as rigid and close-minded as those they often mock.
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No one is saying that metal is limited to one specific style of playing. Why would I listen to heavy, power, black, doom, and death metal if this were the case? It doesn't matter how "original" System of a Down's music is if it's poorly executed. It combines hip hop elements and metal which I think sound terrible together, not to mention the obnoxious vocals and pseudo-political lyrics. I don't get how it's a mystery to you why fans of old school styles don't like this kind of shit.
 
ObscureInfinity said:
No one is saying that metal is limited to one specific style of playing. Why would I listen to heavy, power, black, doom, and death metal if this were the case? It doesn't matter how "original" System of a Down's music is if it's poorly executed. It combines hip hop elements and metal which I think sound terrible together, not to mention the obnoxious vocals and pseudo-political lyrics. I don't get how it's a mystery to you why fans of old school styles don't like this kind of shit.
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Hip Hop elements? Are you sure you're talking about System of A Down here? I can think of very few instances when pseudo-hip hop elements are used to add a bit of exotic flavour to a song, but there's certainly no way you can broadly classify them as a band that generally "combines hip hop with metal", that's more appropriately used to describe bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, etc. Their original-sounding style combines tight thrashy metal with more melodic parts and of course the unique vocal style, as well as lyrics that are (generally) far more meaningful than those you can find in 90%+ of death/black metal these days. SOAD rocks! :headbang:
 
Nothing is more annoying than people who listen to a few bands and go on and on about a band because people do not like the band for whatever reasons. who cares
 
ObscureInfinity said:
No one is saying that metal is limited to one specific style of playing. Why would I listen to heavy, power, black, doom, and death metal if this were the case? It doesn't matter how "original" System of a Down's music is if it's poorly executed. It combines hip hop elements and metal which I think sound terrible together, not to mention the obnoxious vocals and pseudo-political lyrics. I don't get how it's a mystery to you why fans of old school styles don't like this kind of shit.
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What elements of hip hop do they incorporate? To me they are closer to something like Oingo Boingo mixed with metal. Why do you say pseudo-political? Aren't they just political? Yeah, the vocals are different, and if a person doesn't like them, that is understandable. I like them. I can understand people not liking them, but as with any music that I like and others don't, I wonder what the difference is between what I hear from them and what others hear. It's not like I have generic, trendy metal taste, so I know it's not just that I suck.

PLUS... this is the maligned sub-genre thread, so we can talk about soad all soa day.
 
Glam metal sounds too dated for me to enjoy. It just doesn't seem to fill my speakers up as much as modern shit.

I enjoy some nu-metal bands, NOT the alternative rap-rock from the same period that is often mistaken as nu-metal. Korn's Korn and Take a Look in the Mirror, Mudvayne's LD50, Slipknot's Slipknot and Iowa, Mushroomhead's XX and XIII, Static-X's Wisconsin Death Trip and Machine. I still spin these CDs regularly.

Can't stand regular metalcore. The genre has talented musicians and some of the guitar work is pretty cool, but I can't get into it. I enjoy deathcore though. Impartial Dismemberment and Suicide Silence. Hell yeah.
 
medal said:
Glam metal sounds too dated for me to enjoy. It just doesn't seem to fill my speakers up as much as modern shit.

I enjoy some nu-metal bands, NOT the alternative rap-rock from the same period that is often mistaken as nu-metal. Korn's Korn and Take a Look in the Mirror, Mudvayne's LD50, Slipknot's Slipknot and Iowa, Mushroomhead's XX and XIII, Static-X's Wisconsin Death Trip and Machine. I still spin these CDs regularly.
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Just because the music dated doesn't mean it's bad. And Korn has tons of hip-hop influence in their music.
 
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