my dad likes opeth

[paradoxile]

Oh yeah... I remember reading something about that. Israel is like, the only country I know of that forces you to join the army. Not exactly a bad thing, but I bet many people hate that over there and some might have even gone insane or something. Then again, Israel has had a hell of a lot more history then the U.S. so I really wouldn't know.

- Story time story time!!!

It's the fact that they pay only 70$ a month for soldiers who put their life on the line and sleep 2-3 hours a night that pissed me off.
a fucking sweat shop

 

[Stilgar]

Oh yeah... I remember reading something about that. Israel is like, the only country I know of that forces you to join the army.

Sweden as well.
Only the men though. Women are allowed to do it to if they wish, but they're not forced to do it.

 

[steel102]

finland too

 

[paradoxile]

So is Russia...if you are not accepted to a university.

 

[Kenneth R.]

+Switzerland

 

[Disgustipated]

+Deutschland.


So Tubbs, you've kind of been wrecked.

 

[tank]

+ austria
8 month - i did it

 

[Disgustipated]

I had a feeling about Austria, as well as The Netherlands, but I'm not entirely sure so I left them out.

 

[Nitronium Blood]

Does not being in the Army for a while toughen one up?

Or is that pure bullshit?

 

[tank]

I had a feeling about Austria, as well as The Netherlands, but I'm not entirely sure so I left them out.

in austria there is an alternative to the "army"
(take care of older people, driving around with the ambulance,..)

Does not being in the Army for a while toughen one up?

Or is that pure bullshit?

lol... not for me^^
at least physically i'm not tougher than before...
but when it comes to patience...

 

[Liquid Diamonds]

Wait, hang on... In all the countries listed, it's compulsory to join the army? Really? Wow, you learn something new every day...

Hey, wait a minute.... Stilgar says you have to join if you're in Sweden, right? So.... does that mean Mike and Peter were in the army, what with being Swedish and all? Sorry if that's in some way a dumb question, but I'm really curious about that....

 

[Kenneth R.]

very likely.

I wouldn't mind serving for a few years for any of those countries. However, you couldn't pay me enough to fight for my own country. (US)

 

[Disgustipated]

in austria there is an alternative to the "army"
(take care of older people, driving around with the ambulance,..)

Same in Germany, I think. If you choose one of these 'alternatives' though, the service is longer. Is the the case in österreich?

 

[paradoxile]

Same in Israel...for those who don't enlist for consciencious reasons(like pacifism and religion)

 

[tank]

yes, in österreich/austria the "Zivildienst" (the alternative) was 12 month...

since 2006:
military: 6 month
zivildienst: 9 month i think

2005 and before:
military: 8 month
zivildienst: 12 month

i served in 2005

in germany they have something like a shuffle function ^^
so not everyone is forced to serve... i dont know the percentage...

oh and only males are forced to serve... but females are allowed to serve since 1999 or something if they want (all of them suck lol) < in austria

in russia you have to serve 2 years or something hahaa^^

 

[Tubbs]

So Tubbs, you've kind of been wrecked.

Not really, but I am surprised.

What the hell? Why is America's army so damn big then? They could care less about us joining.

- yeah...

 

[Kenneth R.]

What the hell? Why is America's army so damn big then? They could care less about us joining.

- yeah...

because it matches the ego

We have way too many bombs and not enough love.

 

[Disgustipated]

What the hell? Why is America's army so damn big then? They could care less about us joining.

No, they care more. Americans aren't forced to join, they're convinced.

 

[alienuth]

its not so much that americans r convinced as they have little choice. take for instance, a couple of my friends. he knocked her up and the only way he can support them is to go into the military. in the US, if all uve got is a hs diploma, u cant make much money, but go into the military and u get healthcare for life, housing as long as ure in, and theyll educate u if ure not too busy fighting. the reason the us has such a large army is b/c its everywhere, mostly due to the policies of the current administration. we r at war, its expected that our military should be rather large.

 

[Kenneth R.]

sorry to play the fatalist, but what if he is injured or dies and leaves her and the kid without a daddy? I see how it can look like a good option, but if there are other possibilities i don't see how anyone would sanely consider it.