God the NFC East is such a dumpster fire this year. Outside like 5 teams, you might even say the NFL is a dumpster fire this year.
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viewerfromnihil
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rms
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Seems to be a real clear distinction between Championship caliber, wildcard teams and the bottom feeders.
King Richard
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Washington, prior to week 11, had the best chance of winning the division. But then they got trounced by the Panthers and dropped down to 23.9% chance versus 55.2% chance for the Giants. But then week 12 happened so we'll see how much that affected the #'s when they're updated. Either way it's pretty much on those two teams for the division title.
rms
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http://deadspin.com/robert-flores-says-no-ones-mad-about-travis-kelces-touc-1745282517
This is pretty surprising and awesome.
This is pretty surprising and awesome.
viewerfromnihil
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More to his point:
Perhaps I missed the controversy, but I remember very clearly seeing the one concerning Marshawn Lynch for doing something similar.
Perhaps I missed the controversy, but I remember very clearly seeing the one concerning Marshawn Lynch for doing something similar.
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King Richard
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Some differences between Kelce and Cam that are unrelated to race:
It's the Chiefs and he's a 3rd rounder who is rounding into form. Cam is a QB and a #1 overall draft pick. Why not ask why everyone is copying Cam's dance and not Kelce's? Perspectives.
It's the Chiefs and he's a 3rd rounder who is rounding into form. Cam is a QB and a #1 overall draft pick. Why not ask why everyone is copying Cam's dance and not Kelce's? Perspectives.
rms
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More to his point:
Perhaps I missed the controversy, but I remember very clearly seeing the one concerning Marshawn Lynch for doing something similar.
Not sure on the First Take dis, but I think Flores is responding to things like this;
http://deadspin.com/upset-mom-writes-crazy-open-letter-to-cam-newton-1742990037
really reaching there man. Going to deny Newton gets hate for being an arrogant/cocky/fun/whatever black guy? What are you even talking about with the dance copying? Has nothing to do with what dance was being done but by who was doing it.
It's not reaching to point out that the exposure level for Cam Newton in general is much higher than for Kelce. It's the same reason Dallas or Hardy were under such a microscope compared to guys with similar DV issues. Hell, Dallas picked a guy off the Chiefs practice squad with some DV history during the season (David Irving) and nary a peep. I live in NC though so Cam gets very little hate around here when the Panthers are winning.
King Richard
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Popularity definitely plays a role in determining headlines for sure. I don't think Newton gets too much shit honestly, from fans like us anyways. We realize he's pretty freakin good and as long as he's producing and winning then he can have at it. As long as he stays the way he is I don't think he'll be a polarizing player to anyone except to rival fans, which is completely understandable.
Personally, I love end zone dances and celebratory acts by players and hope they're never fully banned. The only reason Cam is getting so much attention this season is definitely because they're undefeated, but mainly because some dumb cunt decided to try and reprimand him in that stupid fucking article which had the complete opposite effect. Now, players are supporting him by mimicking his celebration which is bringing more attention to him, and anytime he scores people are expecting it now, further cementing in the populace's perception that this is who Cam is and this is what he does. Now, if he were to do something fucked up in the future like kill some dogs or beat his son or pop for roids or something stupid like that, the people in the fringe who are just chomping at the bit for any bit of dirt on Cam will be screaming from the mountain tops for sure and it will seem like there's more people who dislike him. But for now, it's just jealous rivals.
Sorry guys, I went on a rant and forgot what my whole point was. Figure it out. lol
edit: Side note - The instant post-game/injury/revolving news with the NFL is just crazy at times. What I'm talking about is the news regarding Gronkowski and how his knee injury is "minor" and simply a "sprain." For someone that big and tough he sure was in a shit ton of pain as soon as he hurt the turf. I just don't buy that it was a "minor injury" or simply a "sprain." The injury reporting system in the NFL is a joke and I really don't even understand the point of it anymore.
Personally, I love end zone dances and celebratory acts by players and hope they're never fully banned. The only reason Cam is getting so much attention this season is definitely because they're undefeated, but mainly because some dumb cunt decided to try and reprimand him in that stupid fucking article which had the complete opposite effect. Now, players are supporting him by mimicking his celebration which is bringing more attention to him, and anytime he scores people are expecting it now, further cementing in the populace's perception that this is who Cam is and this is what he does. Now, if he were to do something fucked up in the future like kill some dogs or beat his son or pop for roids or something stupid like that, the people in the fringe who are just chomping at the bit for any bit of dirt on Cam will be screaming from the mountain tops for sure and it will seem like there's more people who dislike him. But for now, it's just jealous rivals.
Sorry guys, I went on a rant and forgot what my whole point was. Figure it out. lol
edit: Side note - The instant post-game/injury/revolving news with the NFL is just crazy at times. What I'm talking about is the news regarding Gronkowski and how his knee injury is "minor" and simply a "sprain." For someone that big and tough he sure was in a shit ton of pain as soon as he hurt the turf. I just don't buy that it was a "minor injury" or simply a "sprain." The injury reporting system in the NFL is a joke and I really don't even understand the point of it anymore.
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Matt
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Well realistically it takes a few years to properly develop a new QB anyway, so maybe cut a year off that prediction and it'll probably work out well if they draft the right person.
I think Romo has 2 years left. A significant amount of his game is in extending plays, and that ability is going to degrade faster than anything else - plus it puts him at greater risk for injury - so even if he did have 4 years left, how many are a full 16-20 games worth? People also don't understand the Dallas line is a run blocking line, their pass protection is mediocre at best. Maybe if Chaz Green winds up a significant upgrade over Free. That RT position is a liability all around.
King Richard
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(insert dakryn eyeroll here)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-of-mistakes-by-officials-same-as-past-years/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-of-mistakes-by-officials-same-as-past-years/
Yeah, I don't buy that. But what's he supposed to say? "While under my watch, league officiating has reached all time lows!" I think a big part of the problem is trying to officiate the violence out of an inherently brutal sport.
Matt
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The NFL needs an officiating school like MLB has. For aspiring MLB umpires, you go to a month long academy and then, if selected (it's extremely hard to get selected) you start out in low A ball and work your way up. The NFL could partner with the NCAA and use it as a training ground for their officials. The problem isn't the rules or how they're interpreting them, it's that they don't have a uniform process for selecting and developing officials.
Fulltime refs with uniform selection and training probably would help tremendously. I think the league can spare the funds to invest in such a critical area. However, there are an infinite areas of subjectivity to create issues in every area of every play, particularly when compared to a sport like baseball.
rms
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I wonder how much age plays into the ref's problems. Aren't refs, on average, middle aged/and later men who are lawyers or something like that during the week/day?
King Richard
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I didn't expect him to make honest comments. However, making the claim that it hasn't improved in the past few years is just as bad if not worse than saying yes our refs suck. He should have done the political thing stating, "derp derp, human element, we're always trying to improve things and never wish incidents happen but they do, herpa derpa derp derp." Not simply acknowledging shit hasn't gotten better, deal with it. It comes off as extremely daft and condescending.
The problem the NFL is always going to have is the convoluted rule book and, imo, failure to utilize replay to its fullest potential. I have no issue with the number of challenges teams are allotted, however, there's no legitimate reason that they can't specify what they want to challenge. I believe everything should be reviewable at the head coach's request. Claiming that A is allowed to be challenged but B isn't is dumb. Claiming that it's a "judgement call" is also dumb.
The NFL did take a great step in making it a policy to review turnovers and scoring plays. That takes a huge weight off of everyone. But they need to keep going.
