Official - "Holy Diver" tribute discussion thread

I like it very much overall, but I think that everything after ~1:30 is MUCH stronger than that before, tbh...the first 1 1/2 arent as awesome as the rest, you know what I mean? ;)
 
Hey Guys, sorry for not chiming in the last few weeks, I was away.....
I'd still love to sing it, but if you found someone else, that's cool with me, no hard feelings. ;)
 
downloading, will comment soon.

edit: Sounds good overall, but there are some things that bother me a bit, and fixing them could make the track sound better... Nothing personal, but you know, I'm a bit of a vocal nazi as most of the regular people mainly listen to the vocals and if the source material is better than good, it's easier to work on the material to make the end product sound closer to stellar.
No sweat, I understand. Agree that vocals are what most judge the song by.

- Vocalchain
What microphone are you using, and are you compressing on the way in? The vocals sound pretty muffled, like there is no sizzle on the esses or anything, it might be from overcompression with too fast attack settings but if there is none, then I guess it is the microphone. If it's something like SM58, can you try to get a hold of a large diaphram condenser microphone?
My vocal chain is less than steller... Studio Projects C1 -> ART PRO MPA preamp -> POD X3 (interface, but only passing dry signal) -> Cubase. Might try and switch to SM7-b, but usually the C1 sounds brighter which is what I was shooting for here. Could be that I oversquashed it at mixdown as I just threw some comp, verb and delay on it to make it fit in the mix rather than have it dry.
- Articulation
The change of microphone might change some of this, but the articulation sounds maybe a bit too round and stretched (like instead of "tiger" it sounds more like "thaiga" and "diamonds" sound like "diemoth"), compared where the dio's articulation is very straightforward cubical, which makes it sound maybe a bit more agressive. So if you just can, maybe even over-articulate a little on the consonants, but don't lose the mojo over it.

- Emotion
This one is a minor thing, but in the beginning where there are the hums ("uuu, yeah-i-yeah" and when there is the "jump jump" later on before the solo), could you try to make them sound a bit more emotional. The part with "gotta get away" was very good on the emotion part, but the "holy diver" part after that was maybe a bit over, but in Finland we have this saying "mielummin överit kun vajarit", which means something like "rather over than under".

Some of this is probably more style-related...I never have been a good "imitator" and I do naturally tend to draw words or endings out...I know exactly what you mean. Old habits are hard to break!

It's also a bit tough as this was at the top of my break spot for many parts, so I think that had to do with a lot of what you are hearing also. When you have to push hard it doesn't make for very emotional or dynamic singing for sure!

Anyway, let's hear what joey and mago's girlfriend end up with, and if their versions don't work out I will try some different things. I won't have time to re-do anything until the weekend anyway, so hopefully one of them kocks it out of the park and you can continue to roll.
 
No sweat, I understand. Agree that vocals are what most judge the song by.


My vocal chain is less than steller... Studio Projects C1 -> ART PRO MPA preamp -> POD X3 (interface, but only passing dry signal) -> Cubase. Might try and switch to SM7-b, but usually the C1 sounds brighter which is what I was shooting for here. Could be that I oversquashed it at mixdown as I just threw some comp, verb and delay on it to make it fit in the mix rather than have it dry.




Some of this is probably more style-related...I never have been a good "imitator" and I do naturally tend to draw words or endings out...I know exactly what you mean. Old habits are hard to break!

It's also a bit tough as this was at the top of my break spot for many parts, so I think that had to do with a lot of what you are hearing also. When you have to push hard it doesn't make for very emotional or dynamic singing for sure!

Anyway, let's hear what joey and mago's girlfriend end up with, and if their versions don't work out I will try some different things. I won't have time to re-do anything until the weekend anyway, so hopefully one of them kocks it out of the park and you can continue to roll.

I don't bother that much for style related stuff tbh, I think it's part of YOUR style so personally I'm ok with it!
Also I still think that most almost everything after 1:30 was Killer :rock:
I gonna see when I can get stuff done with my girl, also curios how i will turn out hehe
(btw if you didnt know, she's the singer of my band, see my sig)

maybe you could get each singer to do different parts and/or harmonize each other on some parts?
That's also were I aim at hehe
More like seeing which part is coolest by whom ects...When I have all the vox I want to make a version for each singer, and we can see how to put them together, or I try a version ect...
 
@rvs0002: I mostly was worried about the articulation, but like I said don't sweat it or lose mojo over it. It's good as is, but it can be better :)

@Mago: Remember that if you are going to do harmonies, you might most likely need to edit and tune them a bit as the singers haven't heard each others version side by side. If you need any help with it, just let me know.
 
Hey guys, Mago sent me the backing track and I'll be hitting it later today.
Should have it complete with backings by the weekend, then you can decide if you want to incorporate more singers or whatever in it. ;)
 
I hear ground loop hum during the guitar solo and what sounds like "usb hum" in the beginning, check that everything is alright with your recording.

Pretty nice in overall, "the vision never dies" line was pretty awesome, could almost say it was better than the original. Can you try to make a version that has a bit more presence / less lows on the vocals, as they seem pretty dark now? You know, nothing serious, just like just a mild compression with Rvox or something and a few db's of lowshelf drop around 300hz
 
I hear ground loop hum during the guitar solo and what sounds like "usb hum" in the beginning, check that everything is alright with your recording.

Pretty nice in overall, "the vision never dies" line was pretty awesome, could almost say it was better than the original. Can you try to make a version that has a bit more presence / less lows on the vocals, as they seem pretty dark now? You know, nothing serious, just like just a mild compression with Rvox or something and a few db's of lowshelf drop around 300hz


The vocal tracks have Rcomp, an exciter and a mild chorus on them. But when I send it to whoever is gonna mix it, I'll upload the raw track with nothing on it. The mixing engineer can then EQ, compress etc. just the way he needs to. I also cut out everything between the vocal lines so if there's a hum it can't be my recording. I didn't download the backing track, I just played it into my sequencer live thru the mixer, that could be the hum. But I can upload the raw tracks if you want to check them out. Anyway this was just a rough mix so you could hear the voice. Are you mixing this, AHJ ?