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I'm going to start off by posting a couple quotes from the "Beneath the Mire Solo" thread....
That came from here...
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225387
Let me preface this by saying that I am not here to cause debate. I have been a member here for a while now and have browsed the forums ever since. My intentions are only good.
To respond to BurningSky.... That seems like to be the case. And now, I'm not the only one noticing it either. Someone here starts a thread that commends Peter's work and the first person to come in to put a damper on it is, once again, Moonlapse.
To respond to Moonlapse.... you might as well name names at this point because most people here will already know who you are referring to. In this case... Peter. You have, not too long ago, written a review on GR on this very message board and used the same adjective to describe Peter's solo in Beneath the Mire. You also went on in that review by saying negative things about his overall contributions towards that album. I'm not going to quote you on what you said on the second thing because I don't like putting words in people's mouths and I prefer to be accurate. However, I do know that it wasn't at all complimentary in any way shape or form and you did compliment all the other band member's contributions towards that album.
One thing I will quote you on, however, is your use of the word "detrimental" when describing Peter's solo in this particular song. Now, I do realize that you understand what that word means but I feel a need to be specific. It means "obviously harmful and damaging". Do you really feel that his solo damages the song?? I'm sorry, but I find that rather extreme. Let me explain but before I do I would like to point out that I too was a moderator on a major band's message board and have learned through experience some basic moderator "etiquette"...
While I do agree that a moderator should be able to express his/her opinions on the band's work (solos included), I also think that there should be some sort of "discretion" and overall tact when it comes to having an extreme negative opinion on the same. Why?? Because, in a way, you as the moderator represent this board by keeping it in order with regards to topics, fighting, etc etc. People here, mostly new fans, will look up to your posts and possibly take your advice/opinions and whatnot seriously. And in my sincere opinion, I find your comments to be possibly "detrimental" to a band member because if I had a nickel for every time I saw you make a negative comment re: Peter, I would need a bigger piggy bank.
So yes, I do agree that you should be able to speak your mind but do you really feel a need to post that negative comment towards his soloing practically every time his solos are brought up?? And if you do feel that need, must you be so harsh?? There are many ways to express oneself and I just think that since this is the band's official message board and that you are the moderator here that you should practice some refrainment (at times). Because at this point, you are being redundant which leads me to wonder... why??
Allow me to get back on topic and say that I do agree with that thread starter (which I posted above) and think that Peter's solo in Beneath the Mire is excellent and I also enjoy all his other solos in previous albums as well.
I would also like to say that I saw Opeth last month at Webster Hall in NYC and thought Peter's solos totally rocked and I hope to see him do more at the next concert I will be attending. The entire band rocked.
Like I said, I am not trying to cause an argument but the only reason why I started a new topic on this is because I saw way too many times negative statements re: Peter's solos coming from the moderator. I feel it's time to give Peter the recognition he deserves. Also, Moonlapse, you exercised your freedom of speach with regards to Peter's solos/contribution so now I would like that same opportunity to express mine and also point out that I disagree with how you are handling your opinions on him.
So, let this thread be a way to for us to express how we enjoy Peter rather than argue about it.
Thank you. ; )
BurningSky said:
Moonlapse said:
That came from here...
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=225387
Let me preface this by saying that I am not here to cause debate. I have been a member here for a while now and have browsed the forums ever since. My intentions are only good.
To respond to BurningSky.... That seems like to be the case. And now, I'm not the only one noticing it either. Someone here starts a thread that commends Peter's work and the first person to come in to put a damper on it is, once again, Moonlapse.
To respond to Moonlapse.... you might as well name names at this point because most people here will already know who you are referring to. In this case... Peter. You have, not too long ago, written a review on GR on this very message board and used the same adjective to describe Peter's solo in Beneath the Mire. You also went on in that review by saying negative things about his overall contributions towards that album. I'm not going to quote you on what you said on the second thing because I don't like putting words in people's mouths and I prefer to be accurate. However, I do know that it wasn't at all complimentary in any way shape or form and you did compliment all the other band member's contributions towards that album.
One thing I will quote you on, however, is your use of the word "detrimental" when describing Peter's solo in this particular song. Now, I do realize that you understand what that word means but I feel a need to be specific. It means "obviously harmful and damaging". Do you really feel that his solo damages the song?? I'm sorry, but I find that rather extreme. Let me explain but before I do I would like to point out that I too was a moderator on a major band's message board and have learned through experience some basic moderator "etiquette"...
While I do agree that a moderator should be able to express his/her opinions on the band's work (solos included), I also think that there should be some sort of "discretion" and overall tact when it comes to having an extreme negative opinion on the same. Why?? Because, in a way, you as the moderator represent this board by keeping it in order with regards to topics, fighting, etc etc. People here, mostly new fans, will look up to your posts and possibly take your advice/opinions and whatnot seriously. And in my sincere opinion, I find your comments to be possibly "detrimental" to a band member because if I had a nickel for every time I saw you make a negative comment re: Peter, I would need a bigger piggy bank.
So yes, I do agree that you should be able to speak your mind but do you really feel a need to post that negative comment towards his soloing practically every time his solos are brought up?? And if you do feel that need, must you be so harsh?? There are many ways to express oneself and I just think that since this is the band's official message board and that you are the moderator here that you should practice some refrainment (at times). Because at this point, you are being redundant which leads me to wonder... why??
Allow me to get back on topic and say that I do agree with that thread starter (which I posted above) and think that Peter's solo in Beneath the Mire is excellent and I also enjoy all his other solos in previous albums as well.
I would also like to say that I saw Opeth last month at Webster Hall in NYC and thought Peter's solos totally rocked and I hope to see him do more at the next concert I will be attending. The entire band rocked.
Like I said, I am not trying to cause an argument but the only reason why I started a new topic on this is because I saw way too many times negative statements re: Peter's solos coming from the moderator. I feel it's time to give Peter the recognition he deserves. Also, Moonlapse, you exercised your freedom of speach with regards to Peter's solos/contribution so now I would like that same opportunity to express mine and also point out that I disagree with how you are handling your opinions on him.
So, let this thread be a way to for us to express how we enjoy Peter rather than argue about it.
Thank you. ; )
