gorath23
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OK guys, I've put up the Recabinet Forums, so we can continue this discussion without taking Andy's forum off-topic.
Signed up and added my .02 pennies-worth.
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Signed up and added my .02 pennies-worth.
smy1
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What a boring-ass video ... the production values on this are so low, it looks like one of my own videos ...
I mean, seriously? WTF???
I mean, seriously? WTF???
-Gavin-
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smy1
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HAHAHAHA, totally!!!
I was just checking out the Metallica video thread thinking "where did my posting go". It's early-onset retardation ...
I was just checking out the Metallica video thread thinking "where did my posting go". It's early-onset retardation ...
GuitarHack
Krank it UP!
There will be clips on the upcoming website to demonstrate this. Still putting it all together. Thanks!
I charge by song, actually, and then there is only so much time I'm willing to spend on each song for that price. Anything over and it switches to an hourly rate on top of the per-song charge and in the contract it clearly states that anything over 30 minutes is considered a full hour.
And actually, that is not the best argument, because it's not what the consumer wants to pay, necessarily, but what the merchant/seller/business wants to charge and if the consumer is willing to pay that much. A business can try to offer different options at different prices in order to attract and gain more customers. I'm not saying he should set it up to where he loses money...I'm just saying he could have a chance at getting more buyers if there were more options. I know there are a lot of things I've come across that I have completely dismissed simply because there weren't enough options, or because I didn't want to spend that much on something that only had a few things that I wanted. Case in point, music. I refuse to spend $XX on a cd because it is almost inevitable that I won't like all of the songs on it. This is a reason why I like iTunes so much. I am able to pay $0.99 per song and only buy the ones I want. Instead of paying $15 for a cd that has 10-12 songs, of which I may like 6 or 7, I can pay $6-7 and only get the ones I want. Theres a guaranteed sale right there. Whereas before iTunes, I would have just not bought the cd at all.
I see what you are saying, but it is just like Waves does. Either buy a bundle with a shit-ton of plugs you won't use for $1,200 or buy the 3 plugs from the bundle that you will actually use for $650. I'm sorry, but I think most people, myself included, would rather spend less and get what they actually want, rather than get what they want and a bunch of stuff they won't use or need, and they had to pay extra for the shit they don't want or need. If each impulse in a pack breaks down to $6 a piece, then charge $10 for them separately if a user wants to purchase them like that. Already he is making $4 more per impulse selling them that way. I honestly don't see how it is a bad idea or how it could hurt him or any of that nonsense. Maybe you just don't like money?
j/k~006
hoehlentroll
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also talking about something, we cannot test by now. so future will see if the impulses will be better then the last stuff which was posted in this forum or not
This is also true. I'm confident in Shane's efforts though, he seems pretty passionate about putting out a commercial product that is worth paying for.
~006
~006
Ermz
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I look forward to the real/impulse A/Bs as well. I always thought it was a limitation of the technology and could only really get about 90-95% of the way there. Hence my love for the Nebula concept. I'd *love* to be proven wrong though.
Fifth_Horseman
Watch out, it's sharp!
For the insatiable nerd in me...
You said the impulse clips were indistinguishable from fully miced tracks; could you maybe post a single track reamped through a 'normal' setup and then through the impulse made by that setup, and maybe show off a bit by flipping the phase on one of them so only the differences come through?
Jeff
You said the impulse clips were indistinguishable from fully miced tracks; could you maybe post a single track reamped through a 'normal' setup and then through the impulse made by that setup, and maybe show off a bit by flipping the phase on one of them so only the differences come through?
Jeff
OK guys, I've put up the Recabinet Forums, so we can continue this discussion without taking Andy's forum off-topic.
OK, lets go guys, ill take point on securing speaker positions kazrog make sure to clear out any remaining enemy cab locations. the rest of you get ready for any amp mines, the engls carry deadly shrapnel.
-Gavin-
Gavornator
Isn't this technically Piracy?
Like... No worse than borrowing a CD, coping it and then selling the MP3s to people?
Think of all the cabs that won't be bought cause they're unneeded...
Jim Marshall will have to wait another 2-3 months for the gold plated bar by his pool... And think about The head of Peavey will have to sell his Gulf Stream 3 to get a Gulf Stream 2... with no DVD player...
Like... No worse than borrowing a CD, coping it and then selling the MP3s to people?
Think of all the cabs that won't be bought cause they're unneeded...
Jim Marshall will have to wait another 2-3 months for the gold plated bar by his pool... And think about The head of Peavey will have to sell his Gulf Stream 3 to get a Gulf Stream 2... with no DVD player...
Machinated
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Isn't this technically Piracy?
Like... No worse than borrowing a CD, coping it and then selling the MP3s to people?
Think of all the cabs that won't be bought cause they're unneeded...
Jim Marshall will have to wait another 2-3 months for the gold plated bar by his pool... And think about The head of Peavey will have to sell his Gulf Stream 3 to get a Gulf Stream 2... with no DVD player...
Really?
I don't think anyone making impulses is going to harm anyone's sales - they have a pretty different usage. I for one wouldn't sell all my cabs and rely solely on impulses. Even the people who buy these impulses I'm sure will need their cabs for band practice and gigs etc. And if they don't then it begs the question why they have such a cab anyway.
hoehlentroll
Member
That's what I thought first too. But revalver can do it, so anybody else can do it. The only thing is, that if you make profit out of it, you shouldn't name the manufacterer
Isn't this technically Piracy?
Like... No worse than borrowing a CD, coping it and then selling the MP3s to people?
Think of all the cabs that won't be bought cause they're unneeded...
Jim Marshall will have to wait another 2-3 months for the gold plated bar by his pool... And think about The head of Peavey will have to sell his Gulf Stream 3 to get a Gulf Stream 2... with no DVD player...
and Krank will not get their shark tank.
Makes me a sad panda.
Gavin, to answer that question ask yourself this one: how many people do you think actually know about impulses and USE them (or WILL use them anyway) versus how many people don't and will never give up their hardware version (isn't it weird how we can say hardware or software cabinet nowadays!?!?!?). Just like with recording to tape...there will always be at least a handful of people still around that prefer the old school way of things for their various reasons. But in something like guitar cabinets...I find it hard to believe that software versions of the cabinets on the market will have any impact on cabinet sales at all. Impulses are only known about and used by a, realistically, small amount of people, most of which I would assume are in the recording community. Even then, the ratio of people that know about/use impulses to people that don't know/won't use is still pretty large in the latter's favor.
The consensus of the people that know about impulses but will not use them is they feel it doesn't sound the same. With advancements in the quality of the impulses I think the cabinet simulation community will see a lot of newcomers as the quality is showcased and the once-before naysayers see that they need to stop being so snobby, especially when they couldn't tell the difference unless you told them it wasn't the actual cab. Even then, I think the threat to hardware cabinets will still be virtually nonexistent because there are a LOT more guitar players out there than engineers, and not many of them even know about impulses let alone would they ditch their real thing for a laptop with SIR running and plugged into a PA... Not to mention the fact that even though I want to get into impulses again and have the option and convenience...you won't see my Mesa cab listed on eBay any time soon, no matter how good the impulses sound. Nor will they convince me to not purchase an Orange 4x12, etc. I will still want the hardware versions, regardless of the quality of the software version. That's just my opinion and how I feel, I'm sure a majority of the people feel the same way as well. I don't see hardware cabinets going anywhere anytime soon man
~006
The consensus of the people that know about impulses but will not use them is they feel it doesn't sound the same. With advancements in the quality of the impulses I think the cabinet simulation community will see a lot of newcomers as the quality is showcased and the once-before naysayers see that they need to stop being so snobby, especially when they couldn't tell the difference unless you told them it wasn't the actual cab. Even then, I think the threat to hardware cabinets will still be virtually nonexistent because there are a LOT more guitar players out there than engineers, and not many of them even know about impulses let alone would they ditch their real thing for a laptop with SIR running and plugged into a PA... Not to mention the fact that even though I want to get into impulses again and have the option and convenience...you won't see my Mesa cab listed on eBay any time soon, no matter how good the impulses sound. Nor will they convince me to not purchase an Orange 4x12, etc. I will still want the hardware versions, regardless of the quality of the software version. That's just my opinion and how I feel, I'm sure a majority of the people feel the same way as well. I don't see hardware cabinets going anywhere anytime soon man
~006
