I have to say that i'm impressed at how far and how deep this thread dug itself. i must also say that, from my humble opinion, both LIGHT and TOOLSOFTHETRADE are writing views that are absolutely spot on. i was honestly surprised at some of the slightly negative feeling directed toward them for their open-mindedness, but then i get it myself often - always have, always will. it's never "cool" to be open-minded. it's always like this. in our materialistic western culture, being open is always associated with being naive.
i can understand the "seeing is believing" opinion, in fact for a long time i liked a phrase i saw (on a photograph) written on the side of a US tank in the Vietnam War - "believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see".
but i also like to be open. my response to the "seeing is beliveing" brigade is this: nothing "extraordinary" or "supernatural" will happen to you if you are closed to it. it really is as simple as that. if us "believers in the unknown" are so naive, then so be it. if we are wrong, then it doesn't matter - but if we are right, and something "extraordinary" or "supernatural" happens to us in our lifetimes (or next - sorry), then we are extremely fortunate beings indeed.
hope i am not droning on, and especially hope i don't sound "preachy", but i have tried to be direct and simple as possible.