That "Doomsday Machine" sound....

[GeertSamuel]

OK, as in a previous thread "That "Clayman" sound...." discussed the guitar sound of that album...I'd like to discuss the Drum sound on here from Arch Enemy's, Doomsday Machine...Please share your opinions..

After having this album now over 6 months, I'm still blown away everytime I put on the album by the drum sound...
Anybody got any ideas on how the snare was done?
What I do know:
Overheads: rolled up at 500hz
Bass drums: Sample taken from Andy's own DW24" kick.
Toms: All natural, I think he used either Pearl MMX or MRX with Pinstripes..
I'm not sure tho, toward what direction everything is EQ'ed..or any "special effects"..

I know on the Snare & Toms was DVerb standard protools Reverb used.

I thought like the Clayman sound thread, this drumsound should also deserve it's own thread ...

P.S. I'm curious what everybody uses on the MD421mics, what setting for the bass trap...I have it far of to I think the right, where it cuts low ends..what do you use?

 

[Fredrik-Ablaze]

Is it just me or is there no mic on the first floortom?

 

[GeertSamuel]

Is it just me or is there no mic on the first floortom?

Same thought I had, but I guess they added later on after the photos

 

[Disconnekt]

My eyes might deceive me, but I think I see the reflection of a 421 on the head, which would indicate that it is obscured from view by the ride cymbal.

 

[tgs]

Is it just me or is there no mic on the first floortom?

I think that's it.

 

[Fredrik-Ablaze]

Damn good detectivework there
So enough about that, now all gurus tell us about the drumsound!!

I think that's it.

 

[Brett - K A L I S I A]

Why are there two triggers on each kick ???

 

[Fredrik-Ablaze]

My guess is that one trigger is for the drum-module and the other to control a gate or something. Could that be correct?

Why are there two triggers on each kick ???

 

[TheStoryteller]

I don't believe a drum module is involved at all... the triggers are probably recorded as audio tracks. But why two on each kick?

 

[Fredrik-Ablaze]

I dont know for sure but check out what's behind him on the pic

 

[~BURNY~]

Well, triggers to audio track and triggers to sound module just for monitors. Makes sense.

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

Yeah but why is it just the kick that's monitored with a trigger?

 

[~BURNY~]

I guess the clicky sound helps the playing. For the snare, it's probably better to stick with the acoustic sound for a better control.
Then again I'm not Andy so...

 

[FASTFISTS]

Two triggers on each kick insures that they trigger properly.Sometimes youll get faulse triggering.

 

[~BURNY~]

Just noticed:

 

[Genius Gone Insane]

Those look dope...anyone use them?

Just noticed:

 

[GeertSamuel]

Two triggers on each kick insures that they trigger properly.Sometimes youll get faulse triggering.

Same thing I thought...I just use 1 ..don't have that much of a budget ..
I'll redo the part if it's needed hehe

Just noticed:

How do these work? My beyerdynamic sucks, the sound is horrible on it, and the isolation..well don't get me started on that...

I haven't managed yet to get anything near that good of a tom sound yet, with a Pinstripe on my 12" & 14"....also on a Pearl MMX...(I guess it was a MMX since you can see the enforcement rings on top en bottom inside the shell)...

 

[Pman]

i think i remember reading somewhere that he used for the kicks, half natural and half trigger

 

[Andy Sneap]

finished kick on the album was my dw24 triggered with drumagog, about 3 to 4 good samples . The two drum triggers per kick were so daniel could monitor with the brain whilst playing and recording the trigger also.

 

[KeithRT99]

this thread interests me alot. i think the drum sound on DM is one of the best i've heard from andy.

was the snare a sample or was it natural?