The Albums Project

Looking back at the list now I'm just wondering how some of those albums even got onto it. Some of them have absolutely no place on it whatsoever. Drudkh? Seriously.....

I can probably think of about 100 black metal albums that are far more deserving of a spot on this list way before Drudkh and Agalloch.
 
after TheNightsBane

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 34
2. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
3. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 30
4. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 2
5. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 12
6. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
7. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 5
8. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
9. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
10. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 31
11. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
12. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
13. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
14. Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel: 44
15. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 30
16. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 17
17. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 30
18. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
19. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 27
20. Winter - Into Darkness: 47

Celtic Frost/Satyricon/Immortal
 
No, we really don't need every last 2nd wave BM album before a Drudkh album, when they are probably one of the top three acclaimed BM bands of the last decades. Just because their last album or two was sort of shitty doesn't cancel out that they were pretty much at the top from 2003-2006, and only Deathspell Omega was consistently getting as much buzz.

Agalloch is not really black metal at all after Pale Folklore, so I'm not sure where that factors in the discussion. I think they deserved a place in the top 50 for their best album, but The Mantle is obviously an awful selection. The fact that they finish second means that participants on this thread thing that's the best metal album of all time. :erk:

The methodology was bad though. I think that no votes should have been accumulated until 20 albums are nominated. Then every one of those starts at 2 points each and you go from there. No way The Mantle is so high in this case. I think some sort of nomination procedure after that would be cool. I appreciate that people try to do some informal polling, but I think a 2nd or 3rd person should have to commit to backing an album before it gets on the list.
 
After Bubble Ripper

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 34
2. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
3. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 30
4. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 2
5. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 12
6. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
7. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 6
8. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
9. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
10. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 30
11. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
12. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
13. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
14. Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel: 44
15. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 30
16. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 17
17. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 30
18. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
19. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 29
20. Winter - Into Darkness: 47

Dimension Hatröss/Bonded By Blood/At the Heart of Winter
 
After HamburgerBoy

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 34
2. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
3. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 32
4. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 2
5. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 12
6. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
7. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 6
8. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
9. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
10. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 30
11. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
12. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
13. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
14. Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel: 43
15. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 30
16. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 17
17. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 30
18. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
19. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 29
20. Winter - Into Darkness: 48

Severed/Darkness/Mortem
 
after Avigrus:

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 36
2. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
3. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 32
4. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 2
5. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 12
6. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
7. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 6
8. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
9. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
10. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 31
11. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
12. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
13. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
14. Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel: 43
15. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 30
16. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 17
17. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 29
18. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
19. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 29
20. Winter - Into Darkness: 48

Ashes/Immortal/SNM
 
MasterOLightning said:
Well, Kreated pretty much has broken the system with his incessant votes for Immortal and Agalloch albums that the majority clearly does not want on the list. I know other people support these too, but for other people, they can't really vote down much of anything else.

It was a mistake to not take Marrow of the Spirit over Ashes Against the Grain earlier. Marrow would have already been on the list, and then hopefully no one would have been obnoxious enough to suggest AATG for about another 100 albums.
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Half the albums on the list are voted by 1 or 2 people. At least 4 people are voting up Ashes, I'm just doing it most often. And if you remember, I put Marrow on the list but it was voted off. Possibly by you among others?
 
After Kreated:

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 36
2. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
3. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 33
4. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 2
5. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 14
6. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
7. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 6
8. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
9. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
10. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 31
11. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
12. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
13. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
14. Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel: 43
15. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 30
16. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 16
17. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 29
18. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
19. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 29
20. Winter - Into Darkness: 48

The Work.../Severed Survival/Medieval
 
After Werckmeister:

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 35
2. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
3. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 33
4. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 2
5. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 16
6. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
7. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 6
8. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
9. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
10. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 31
11. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
12. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
13. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
14. Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel: 44
15. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 30
16. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 16
17. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 29
18. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
19. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 29
20. Winter - Into Darkness: 48

BAN/NM/Agalloch
 
Marrow hasn't been out long enough for it to have sunk in to the point where it deserves to be on this list yet. And I don't think it's their best anyway.

It's all a matter of opinion. Pale Folklore and The Mantle are better than Ashes and Ashes is better than Marrow. To me anyway.
 
After MasterOLightning:

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 34
2. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
3. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 33
4. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 4
5. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 16
6. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
7. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 6
8. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
9. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
10. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 31
11. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
12. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
13. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
14. Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel: 44
15. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 30
16. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 16
17. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 29
18. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
19. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 29
20. Winter - Into Darkness: 49

Somewhere/Darkness/Ashes
 
After Ryuuzaki:

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 34
2. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
3. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 33
4. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 3
5. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 17
6. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
7. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 6
8. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
9. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
10. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 31
11. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
12. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
13. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
14. Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel: 44
15. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 30
16. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 18
17. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 29
18. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
19. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 29
20. Winter - Into Darkness: 49

Dark/ The Work/ Somewhere
 
After crimsonfloyd

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 36
2. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
3. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 33
4. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 3
5. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 17
6. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
7. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 6
8. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
9. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
10. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 30
11. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
12. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
13. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
14. Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel: 44
15. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 31
16. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 18
17. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 29
18. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
19. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 29
20. Winter - Into Darkness: 49

Agalloch/Sacramentum/Immortal
 
MasterOLightning said:
Well, Kreated pretty much has broken the system with his incessant votes for Immortal and Agalloch albums that the majority clearly does not want on the list. I know other people support these too, but for other people, they can't really vote down much of anything else.
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As far as Agalloch goes, that's just false. BubbleRipper and I have voted for it a lot too. There is at least one infrequent voter, whose name slips my mind who also votes for it.

Also, Kreated's voting style is no different than what Avrigus (and probably others) has been doing all along.

It was a mistake to not take Marrow of the Spirit over Ashes Against the Grain earlier. Marrow would have already been on the list, and then hopefully no one would have been obnoxious enough to suggest AATG for about another 100 albums. I like AATG, but it's not great, and it's probably Agalloch's fourth best album, so no.
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It's all a matter of taste. My ranking goes:

1) Mantle
2) Marrow
3) Ashes
4) Pale

Either way, Ashes was the best metal album of 06, so I don't have a problem voting for it before Marrow--especially since for the past few weeks the list was pretty weak-- as long as Marrow gets on the list sooner than later.
 
after bubble ripper

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 35
2. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
3. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 34
4. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 3
5. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 17
6. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
7. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 6
8. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
9. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
10. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 30
11. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
12. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
13. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
14. Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel: 44
15. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 31
16. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 18
17. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 29
18. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
19. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 29
20. Winter - Into Darkness: 51

winter/autopsy/agalloch

i think Winter makes the list now, correct?
 
after Ascendence:

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 35
2. Agalloch - Marrow of the Spirit: 2
3. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
4. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 33
5. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 3
6. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 17
7. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
8. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 6
9. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
10. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
11. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 30
12. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
13. Kreator- Pleasure to Kill: 1
14. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
15. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
16. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 31
17. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 18
18. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 29
19. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
20. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 29

Winter AND Nokturnal Mortum make it

Agalloch/Kreator/Autopsy

With all the controversy over Marrow being better let's see who downvotes it now
 
are you fucking shitting me.

we now have two Agalloch albums on the list we're voting on, and one already on the list.

agalloch being on the list is fine BUT WE DON'T NEED MORE THAN ONE FUCKING ALBUM PER BAND YET JESUS CHRIST YOU STUPID FUCKING CUNTS
 
after kreated

i dont give a fuck what you do or think, im pulling that agalloch album off the list, figure out where to spread you +2 next time.

1. Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain: 34
2. Obituary - Cause of Death: 2
3. At the Gates - The Red in the Sky Is Ours: 37
4. Autopsy - Severed Survival: 33
5. Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond : 3
6. Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God: 17
7. Celtic Frost - Morbid Tales: 35
8. Exodus - Bonded By Blood: 6
9. Fates Warning - Awaken the Guardian: 28
10. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity: 14
11. Immortal - At the Heart of Winter: 30
12. Jag Panzer - Ample Destruction: 21
13. Kreator- Pleasure to Kill: 1
14. Manowar - Hail to England: 18
15. Metal Church - Metal Church: 27
16. Sacramentum - Far Away from the Sun: 31
17. Satyricon - Dark Medieval Times: 18
18. Slayer - Show No Mercy : 29
19. Suffocation - Pierced From Within: 10
20. Voivod - Dimension Hatröss: 29

Cause of Death / Blind Guardian / Ashes
 
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