The Albums Project

after TheNightsBane

1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence: 35
2. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality: 18
3. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus: 31
4. Coroner - No More Color: 26
5. Deathspell Omega - Fas, Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum: 29
6. Demigod - Slumber of Sullen Eyes: 26
7. Demilich - Nespithe: 15
8. Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising: 35
9. Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi: 4
10. Fates Warning - The Spectre Within: 26
11. Immolation - Dawn of Possession: 8
12. Iron Maiden- Seventh Son of a Seventh Son: 5
13. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas: 38
14. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath: 32
15. Motörhead - Overkill: 3
16. Negură Bunget - OM: 21
17. Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood: 13
18. Opeth - Morningrise: 29
19. Pestilence - Consuming Impulse: 19
20. Sepultura - Beneath the Remains: 31

Negură Bunget / Opeth / Motorhead


Also, four people in a row voted Destroyer 666 down on the last page. I think that using votes reactionarily to vote down things that are "too high" in your opinion will skew the results. I think it's better if everyone just votes down whatever they legitimately feel is the worst (or least-best) of the albums on the list
 
It's so doubtful that anyone will have heard all of the albums on the 20 at any given time, except at maybe the very beginning, and even then there were very bizarre choices, like Alchemist as a top 10 all time album.

It's also fair, I think, to start voting down an album when it's clear that one person is just piling up all or most of the votes for it.
 
MasterOLightning said:
It's also fair, I think, to start voting down an album when it's clear that one person is just piling up all or most of the votes for it.
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maybe but I think it would be best if the rules were appended so that you can't vote for an album twice, or more than say 4 or 5 times at most, because it gets ridiculous if someone votes 3 x a day for the same album until it has 60 or more points

also, the rules were biased from the start toward the first albums placed on the list. Hvis Lyset Tar Oss was the first album put on the list, and ended up #1 because it only needed 4 or 5 people to vote for it to become the number one album of all time before there were even 20 albums on the list and the others only had 1 or 2 points each. And those 4 or 5 people could have even included the same person more than once. I'm aware that in actuality it didn't get the #1 spot until it had 14 points but this is still an example of how there was extreme bias toward the ones placed on the list first. Hell, by the time Hvis Lyset Tar Oss had 14, Agalloch was already second with 7 and nothing else had more than 4. They were rushed to the top, plain and simple, by the first people to vote. Also, if the first poster had suggested a different Burzum album, that one probably would have become #1 too, because people just vote for an album by band X because they like band X and it's the only album by that band currently on the list. This is not how voting should be done

A better thread would be, list your 20 top metal albums of all time, and this is how many points are given to each
#1- 5 points
#2 and #3- 4 points each
#4 through #6- 3 points each
#7 through #10- 2 points each
#11 through #20- 1 point each

Then everyone's points would just be added together. No voting more than once, no rushing the first albums to the top because the order people respond in doesn't matter. Then we just get 100-200 people to vote, add up the points for each album, and we have our list
 
After Kreated

1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence: 35
2. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality: 18
3. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus: 31
4. Coroner - No More Color: 26
5. Deathspell Omega - Fas, Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum: 29
6. Demigod - Slumber of Sullen Eyes: 26
7. Demilich - Nespithe: 15
8. Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising: 36
9. Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi: 4
10. Fates Warning - The Spectre Within: 26
11. Immolation - Dawn of Possession: 8
12. Iron Maiden- Seventh Son of a Seventh Son: 5
13. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas: 38
14. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath: 32
15. Motörhead - Overkill: 3
16. Negură Bunget - OM: 20
17. Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood: 13
18. Opeth - Morningrise: 29
19. Pestilence - Consuming Impulse: 20
20. Sepultura - Beneath the Remains: 31

Consuming Impulse/Phoenix/OM
 
I pretty much agree with your second part, but that's pointless to argue over now. I think a better way to keep people from boosting the same thing repeatedly is to change it to an 8 hour delay or longer between votes instead of 6.

A better way to do it would be to have a nomination process where an album would need maybe three supporters before being on the list.
 
I agree. Or, instead of an album needing only 7 points higher than the others, make it more like 20. Or, allow more than 20 albums on the list so people aren't forced to vote for albums that they don't feel are the best. If there were 5 Burzum albums on the list not everyone would have voted for Hvis Lyset Tar Oss just because it was there
 
Kreated said:
I agree. Or, instead of an album needing only 7 points higher than the others, make it more like 20. Or, allow more than 20 albums on the list so people aren't forced to vote for albums that they don't feel are the best. If there were 5 Burzum albums on the list not everyone would have voted for Hvis Lyset Tar Oss just because it was there
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You'd never get anywhere with this list if the gap was 20 points above the next.
 
I know, but, this way isn't working that well either. I think the everyone voting separately and just adding up the points would be the best solution, even though it wouldn't be as interesting
 
After Avigrus

1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence: 35
2. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality: 17
3. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus: 31
4. Coroner - No More Color: 26
5. Deathspell Omega - Fas, Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum: 29
6. Demigod - Slumber of Sullen Eyes: 26
7. Demilich - Nespithe: 15
8. Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising: 38
9. Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi: 4
10. Fates Warning - The Spectre Within: 26
11. Immolation - Dawn of Possession: 9
12. Iron Maiden- Seventh Son of a Seventh Son: 5
13. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas: 38
14. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath: 32
15. Motörhead - Overkill: 3
16. Negură Bunget - OM: 20
17. Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood: 13
18. Opeth - Morningrise: 29
19. Pestilence - Consuming Impulse: 20
20. Sepultura - Beneath the Remains: 31

Phoenix/Dawn of Possession/Master
 
After Avigrus

1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence: 35
2. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality: 16
3. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus: 31
4. Coroner - No More Color: 26
5. Deathspell Omega - Fas, Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum: 29
6. Demigod - Slumber of Sullen Eyes: 26
7. Demilich - Nespithe: 15
8. Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising: 38
9. Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi: 4
10. Fates Warning - The Spectre Within: 26
11. Immolation - Dawn of Possession: 9
12. Iron Maiden- Seventh Son of a Seventh Son: 5
13. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas: 38
14. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath: 32
15. Motörhead - Overkill: 3
16. Negură Bunget - OM: 21
17. Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood: 13
18. Opeth - Morningrise: 31
19. Pestilence - Consuming Impulse: 20
20. Sepultura - Beneath the Remains: 31

Opeth / Negura / Black Sabbath
 
after Kreated

1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence: 36
2. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality: 18
3. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus: 31
4. Coroner - No More Color: 26
5. Deathspell Omega - Fas, Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum: 29
6. Demigod - Slumber of Sullen Eyes: 26
7. Demilich - Nespithe: 15
8. Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising: 38
9. Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi: 4
10. Fates Warning - The Spectre Within: 25
11. Immolation - Dawn of Possession: 9
12. Iron Maiden- Seventh Son of a Seventh Son: 5
13. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas: 38
14. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath: 32
15. Motörhead - Overkill: 3
16. Negură Bunget - OM: 21
17. Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood: 13
18. Opeth - Morningrise: 31
19. Pestilence - Consuming Impulse: 20
20. Sepultura - Beneath the Remains: 31

Master of Reality / Unquestionable Presence / Spectre Within
 
How about 25 albums, 10 point gap. Might that be a little better? Anyway, after TheNightsBane:

1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence: 36
2. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality: 20
3. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus: 31
4. Coroner - No More Color: 26
5. Deathspell Omega - Fas, Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum: 29
6. Demigod - Slumber of Sullen Eyes: 26
7. Demilich - Nespithe: 15
8. Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising: 38
9. Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi: 4
10. Fates Warning - The Spectre Within: 25
11. Immolation - Dawn of Possession: 9
12. Iron Maiden- Seventh Son of a Seventh Son: 6
13. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas: 38
14. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath: 32
15. Motörhead - Overkill: 3
16. Negură Bunget - OM: 21
17. Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood: 13
18. Opeth - Morningrise: 31
19. Pestilence - Consuming Impulse: 20
20. Sepultura - Beneath the Remains: 30

Master/Seventh/Beneath
 
Adding more albums could encourage voting for different ones, but it might not result in that anyways. I've mostly been voting for the same four albums over and over because I don't think the others on the list are as good as those (or, at the very least, know that they will make the list without my help). Limiting absolute number of votes for a given album probably will slow things to the point of boredom, unless maybe the +2's are limited so that someone +1-ing a certain album can always be counteracted. But I really don't care that much and enjoy the arguments that result more than the sanctity of the list, so whatever.

1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence: 36
2. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality: 20
3. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus: 33
4. Coroner - No More Color: 26
5. Deathspell Omega - Fas, Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum: 29
6. Demigod - Slumber of Sullen Eyes: 26
7. Demilich - Nespithe: 15
8. Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising: 38
9. Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi: 4
10. Fates Warning - The Spectre Within: 26
11. Immolation - Dawn of Possession: 9
12. Iron Maiden- Seventh Son of a Seventh Son: 6
13. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas: 38
14. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath: 32
15. Motörhead - Overkill: 3
16. Negură Bunget - OM: 21
17. Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood: 13
18. Opeth - Morningrise: 31
19. Pestilence - Consuming Impulse: 20
20. Sepultura - Beneath the Remains: 29

Epicus Doomicus Metallicus/The Spectre Within/Beneath the Remains

Kreated said:
damn all you black sabbath fanboys... original doesn't mean best
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Opeth doesn't even mean good.
 
After HambergerBoy:

1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence: 36
2. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality: 20
3. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus: 33
4. Coroner - No More Color: 26
5. Deathspell Omega - Fas, Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum: 29
6. Demigod - Slumber of Sullen Eyes: 26
7. Demilich - Nespithe: 15
8. Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising: 38
9. Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi: 4
10. Fates Warning - The Spectre Within: 26
11. Immolation - Dawn of Possession: 9
12. Iron Maiden- Seventh Son of a Seventh Son: 6
13. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas: 38
14. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath: 32
15. Motörhead - Overkill: 3
16. Negură Bunget - OM: 21
17. Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood: 13
18. Opeth - Morningrise: 31
19. Pestilence - Consuming Impulse: 20
20. Sepultura - Beneath the Remains: 28

Fas/ Vikingir/ Beneath
 
Concerning some of the general questions people are having, here is my reasoning for why the rules are as they are:

Why 20 albums? Twenty is a small enough list that people can actually know what's on it. If you don't know the album, you can check it out on Wiki, Metal-Archives, Youtube etc. and get some knowledge about it and get a picture of why people think it should be on the list. If the list gets much longer people will just ignore the majority of the albums (even with 20, that kind of happens).

Why 7 points? Seven points is enough that one person cannot single-handedly push an album onto the list without other people allowing them to (i.e. not using their -1 vote to keep it from getting on). Also, once an album gets a seven point lead, its pretty hard to imagine it losing the lead.

Why 5 hours? It seems like a good amount of time to me. We could stretch the time to 6 or 7 hours if people want, but I personally think its worked fine as it is. If other people feel differently we can extend it.
 
I think the rules are fine as they are.

After crimsonfloyd

1. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence: 36
2. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality: 20
3. Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus: 33
4. Coroner - No More Color: 26
5. Deathspell Omega - Fas, Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum: 29
6. Demigod - Slumber of Sullen Eyes: 26
7. Demilich - Nespithe: 16
8. Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising: 38
9. Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi: 4
10. Fates Warning - The Spectre Within: 26
11. Immolation - Dawn of Possession: 9
12. Iron Maiden- Seventh Son of a Seventh Son: 6
13. Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas: 40
14. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath: 32
15. Motörhead - Overkill: 3
16. Negură Bunget - OM: 21
17. Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood: 12
18. Opeth - Morningrise: 31
19. Pestilence - Consuming Impulse: 20
20. Sepultura - Beneath the Remains: 28

De Mysteriis/Nespithe/Through Silver
 
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