the definitive discussioning of genre definitions discussion

[Vinder]

Emos are anti metal? Many of them like hardcore/deathcore/metalcore.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

What the fuck are you talking about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo

If you haven't heard Rites of Spring, etc. get out.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

Current emo is pop/punk, basically.

 

[rms]

What the fuck are you talking about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo

If you haven't heard Rites of Spring, etc. get out.

you'd think you'd be used to having people refer to the wrong emo by now instead of a 'wtf you are retarded' response

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

No, it's better to snub them and whatnot.

 

[Vossyrus]

I don't like emo regardless if it's the crap kids listen to today, or the kvlt stuff tr00 emos brag about.

 

[SentinelSlain]

I don't like emo regardless if it's the crap kids listen to today, or the kvlt stuff tr00 emos brag about.

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[SweptbackFlame]

The term emo is literally extremely fucking misappropriated.

I second this, it's overexagerrated.

But on the other hand, never have I heard EMO referred to as a genre

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

go to the damn link i posted then

 

[SweptbackFlame]

go to the damn link i posted then

chill out...I did.

hence why I said that.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

Oh well, then you actually have heard of emo as a genre; just then

 

[SweptbackFlame]

Oh well, then you actually have heard of emo as a genre; just then

Yes, at first I thought you posted a link to the what the description of an Emo is lol..then it said genre, I was like LOLWUT?

 

[Satanstoenail]

I get that. I wasn't mentioning blastbeats to say "blastbeats are metal, therefore any music that uses blastbeats is metal", but rather "blastbeats are not rock, punk is (essentially) rock-based, therefore music that uses blastbeats is not punk". QED.

At the time when grindcore started happening, blastbeats were neither metal or punk, so blastbeats aren't really relevant imo. I think the earlier grindcore material is lumped in with hardcore/punk because of the overall feel of rawness and extremity in the music. Purists therefore label anything grindcore thereafter "not metal", which I don't necessarily agree with btw. I think the amount that death metal and grindcore have influenced each other is enough that grindcore should be regarded as a subgenre of metal these days.

 

[slowlywerot]

I don't like emo regardless if it's the crap kids listen to today, or the kvlt stuff tr00 emos brag about.

Kvlt is now a cliche. Way over used.

 

[slowlywerot]

At the time when grindcore started happening, blastbeats were neither metal or punk, so blastbeats aren't really relevant imo. I think the earlier grindcore material is lumped in with hardcore/punk because of the overall feel of rawness and extremity in the music. Purists therefore label anything grindcore thereafter "not metal", which I don't necessarily agree with btw. I think the amount that death metal and grindcore have influenced each other is enough that grindcore should be regarded as a subgenre of metal these days.

If you listen to Immortal there's a lot of fucking blast beats. IMO, blast beats are a characteristic in all extreme metal genres. The thing I hate about hardcore (or any 'core' for that matter) is the breakdowns.

 

[challenge_everything]

IMO, blast beats are a characteristic in all extreme metal genres.

and you call yourself a metalhead