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fuck no i wouldnt shoot it, i would either smoke or snort it, ideally smoke
shooting up stuff like that is why ppl die with heroin...dosing becomes way to sensitive...and fuck knows what could be mixed in there
smoking/snorting/swallowing are easier to control and give a little buffer
yes
smoking is definitively the safest way to do meth
I know, just trying to clear my conscience of guilt for when he ruins his life. I mean, the kid was never a winner to begin with, but nothing good ever came from the thought "hm, I think it's a good idea to smoke meth". How did you end up a homeless anyhow? Was it meth related?
no
me becoming homeless wasn't meth related
yes meth can fix your addictions to other drugs
it's a real thing, i've seen people use meth to get off heroin
Before the video even starts, his disclaimer says;
"This is NOT advice. I am NOT a doctor and this should NOT be tried by anyone else."
of course it has this disclaimer
but that doesn't necessarily make the rest of the video unhelpful
of course, my point was that its inaccurate to blindly assume that a substance is all bad
every drug has risks and benefits, and they vary from person to person
i agree with you here
but
@EternalMetal was actually researching before making the statements in his posts
Sounds like this guy used meth to get over a decade long severe addiction to alcohol. Everything about this story sounds like a massive anomaly, and if you think you're one of these special cases where you'll be helped or not harmed by trying various highly addictive hardcore substances you're a bigger spastic than I thought.
Anything can be countered with some random ass obscure example, odds are it won't mean shit for you. You're not special.
(FYI - I don't care if you try every shit-tier life-destroying drug on the planet, just don't lie to yourself and expect us to go along with your immature delusions.)
yes the story was an anomoly
but that's not going to stop
@HadesRagnazrath from doing meth
i dont need anyone else to go along with what i do, my point was simply that meth isnt purely a bad thing...it has had a positive effect on some peoples life
yes
meth can alleviate your dependence on other drugs
and it can be helpful for treating chronic fatigue syndrome
I have experience with drugs personally, and have even studied a bit of medicine myself. I am not "blindly" assuming anything. I may not have an MD, but I know what im talking about. Your lack of impulse control, self-destructive behavior, depression, and paranoia suggest to me that you are not mentally stable, and are without a doubt NOT the type of person who should experiment with meth. Also the guy in that video wasn't trying to use meth recreationally in any way, and only ate as much as it took to take the alcohol cravings away. It may have had a (currently) positive impact on his life, but I bet it ruins yours. Good luck kid.
@EternalMetal i agree with you
but maybe
@HadesRagnazrath using meth won't be quite so bad if he can do it in small enough amounts
There are some women who say they're stronger people as a result of being raped. Like I said, you can find counter-examples for most things.
yeah
but that's only because rapists prey on "weak" women anyway
so
being raped can change behavior in such a way that the victim is less likely to be targeted by rapists in the future
im gonna put it this way...if im interested in doing something and i come across the means to do so i will more than likely do it
so you know, i would almost certainly try other stims first to see how i react. the only uppers i have experience with are caffeine and nicotine, both of which i really like. and possibly this stuff called eugenol but its effects were kind of hard to explain so idk how to categorize it...i was rolling on the floor laughing at my own thoughts yet i felt warm and numb. it gave me a shitty hangover though...actually i just remembered ive heard of ppl using that stuff to enhance meth or something now that i think about it
i would tell you to do Adderall first before you do meth
Yea dude, definitely dont start off with the great granddaddy of all uppers then. Even Adderall is crazy addictive and makes you feel amazing, and it doesnt have shit on smoking meth. Dextroamphetamine is the hardest stim ive ever tried, and if I was able to get my hands on more of it (I used it as a study tool in college), I could easily see myself wanting it daily. Ive also had that stuff that dude was prescribed in the video (Vyvanse), and it too is pretty addictive. Coke is nice, ritalin is garbage. From what it sounds like, you don't even know what the amphetamine rush feels like. It is so good that I couldn't even imagine the (much more powerful) euphoria of smoking meth. Id crave that shit for the rest of my life (I had month long cravings for dextroamp after I ran out of my study doses). And while you do feel great, you do get that heightened sense of paranoia when you start to come down, and become very jumpy and nervous, and initially redosing at the cost of sleep temporarily makes this go away, but then it gets amplified when you come down again. You WILL want to do this shit daily, and after a while the effects no longer make you "better" at doing things like they initially do.
How about downers and psychedelics? Any experience?
obviously he has no experience doing amphetamines
but i still think he'll be okay if he's smoking meth instead of shooting it
just inhalants and nutmeg (yeah it can get you high). inhalants are dissasociatives which is kind of in between downers and psychedelics. glue was basically an insane body high and hallucinations that constantly morph. basically made me feel like i was some kind of energetic life and that the music i was listening to was waves within my electrical body. butane has the same comforting warming feeling but in small doses it sort of feels like a downer version of nicotine
nutmeg was really unpleasant. i wasnt aware of any visuals but something weird and hard to explain happened and i didnt realize until years later so its possible i was hallucinating a lot of other things too without knowing, just an altered perception of reality...time felt slow as fuck and i was basically emotionless. it made a funny story though because when i was 14 and tried it i ended up having to give a speech in front of the whole school while i was high
id be willing to try acid or shrooms or even dmt but its not something id do randomly, id have to make sure i was in the right state of mind and setting
the right "setting" should include experienced users supervising you
as i said earlier, i'd watch your reactions and cut you off if you were doing meth next to me
