The thread about guns and stuff like that!

Because they don't?

It's more like "I have a knife to your throat, but if you aren't a dumbass and you just give me your fucking money, everything will be fine"
 
Dude, what world do you live in? Obviously, nine times out of ten cooperation is your best bet, but people who cooperate with criminals still get murdered.

Someone who is brandishing a weapon at you is threatening your life, regardless of whether or not they actually intend to kill you (fun fact: us normals don't possess the ability to read minds and therefore can never know someone's intent. What about you?). It is so fucking obvious that an armed assailant is considerably more likely to kill or harm you than the average joe on the street. It's actually really fucking simple and it's remarkable that it still escapes you.
 
It's never safe, obviously. I said this earlier. If someone pulls a weapon on you, you're in danger. It's not a good situation. However, the best thing you can do is not freak out, and just cooperate. There's always a chance something will go wrong. What I'm saying is that you have the best chance of survival if you cooperate and don't try to pull a gun on the guy. Of course there's danger. I'm not a complete idiot.
 
Yes, cooperating is usually the best thing to do. That still doesn't mean that people shouldn't be prepared to defend themselves, even with a gun.

If someone is robbing you and, for whatever reason, you're convinced they're going to harm or kill you, I see no reason why using a gun wouldn't be justifiable.
 
WTF??? You're all missing a grand point here!!! How in the hell are you going to reach for your gun when there's a gun shoved in your face?? If they're going to shoot you, you're fucked. YOU LOSE!! How is a gun going to help you when you can't even reach for it?
 
WTF??? You're all missing a grand point here!!! How in the hell are you going to reach for your gun when there's a gun shoved in your face?? If they're going to shoot you, you're fucked. YOU LOSE!! How is a gun going to help you when you can't even reach for it?

magic missle?
 
A Victim Treats His Mugger Right

Morning Edition, March 28, 2008

Julio Diaz has a daily routine. Every night, the 31-year-old social worker ends his hour-long subway commute to the Bronx one stop early, just so he can eat at his favorite diner.

But one night last month, as Diaz stepped off the No. 6 train and onto a nearly empty platform, his evening took an unexpected turn.

He was walking toward the stairs when a teenage boy approached and pulled out a knife.

"He wants my money, so I just gave him my wallet and told him, 'Here you go,'" Diaz says.

As the teen began to walk away, Diaz told him, "Hey, wait a minute. You forgot something. If you're going to be robbing people for the rest of the night, you might as well take my coat to keep you warm."

The would-be robber looked at his would-be victim, "like what's going on here?" Diaz says. "He asked me, 'Why are you doing this?'"

Diaz replied: "If you're willing to risk your freedom for a few dollars, then I guess you must really need the money. I mean, all I wanted to do was get dinner and if you really want to join me ... hey, you're more than welcome.

"You know, I just felt maybe he really needs help," Diaz says.

Diaz says he and the teen went into the diner and sat in a booth.

"The manager comes by, the dishwashers come by, the waiters come by to say hi," Diaz says. "The kid was like, 'You know everybody here. Do you own this place?'"

"No, I just eat here a lot," Diaz says he told the teen. "He says, 'But you're even nice to the dishwasher.'"

Diaz replied, "Well, haven't you been taught you should be nice to everybody?"

"Yea, but I didn't think people actually behaved that way," the teen said.

Diaz asked him what he wanted out of life. "He just had almost a sad face," Diaz says.

The teen couldn't answer Diaz — or he didn't want to.

When the bill arrived, Diaz told the teen, "Look, I guess you're going to have to pay for this bill 'cause you have my money and I can't pay for this. So if you give me my wallet back, I'll gladly treat you."

The teen "didn't even think about it" and returned the wallet, Diaz says. "I gave him $20 ... I figure maybe it'll help him. I don't know."

Diaz says he asked for something in return — the teen's knife — "and he gave it to me."

Afterward, when Diaz told his mother what happened, she said, "You're the type of kid that if someone asked you for the time, you gave them your watch."

"I figure, you know, if you treat people right, you can only hope that they treat you right. It's as simple as it gets in this complicated world."

Produced for Morning Edition by Michael Garofalo.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=89164759

Also I found this on another forum.
 
For example, if they just tell you they have a gun. In which case, while it would be stupid to assume they don't, you have no justification to start shooting.

true, but if you were armed you could draw your gun and order them to get on the ground.
Then again, if the person wasnt lying and was armed that could start an unnecesary gun fight.

all i know is that if i was in a situation where someone was armed or said they had a weapon and were threatening me, i would want to be armed and at least have the option to attack or surrender.
 
:kickass:
http://cjonline.com/stories/042108/bre_guns.shtml
Governor signs machine gun measure
The Associated Press
Published Monday, April 21, 2008 at 2:57 p.m. CDT

Starting July 1, Kansans will be able to own machine guns, other fully automatic weapons, sawed-off shotguns and silencers.

Gov. Kathleen Sebelius signed a bill today legalizing their possession.

Supporters say collectors are likely to be the main beneficiaries. They note that machine guns typically cost at least $20,000.

Purchasers still must comply with federal restrictions, which include two background checks and approval by the local sheriff.

In December, the attorney general’s office issued a legal opinion saying part of the state’s current ban is so restrictive that only law enforcement agencies can possess silencers. That means no dealer can have them in Kansas, even to deliver to those agencies.
 
why the hell do you need a silencer other than sneak attacking someone? and a machine gun, is kansas at war or something with the neighboring states? im glad i don't live there, that bill is a severe back step to the stone age.