Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
Funny, I read this post right after re-reading Chapter 1 of Postman's Technopoly, which I had assigned my students over the weekend. I'll be sure to include this U2 debacle in class discussion today.
The Whining and Bitching Thread
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Dak
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Yeah, much worse stuff has been and is ongoing in terms of "violation" across the tech spectrum. I'm just loling Apple made such a bonehead move. But STN can and should vote with his wallet. I have never had bloatware or bloatmusic stuck on my device beyond what I consented to in purchase, and it is quite easy to root and mod your android device to remove and block that stuff if you so wish.
Einherjar86
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To be honest, it sounds like pretty melodramatic bickering (no offense STN). Hell, I don't see it as intrusive at all; if iTunes keeps sending free music to my device, that's great. If you don't like it, then just delete it. I don't care if it's Justin fucking Bieber.
It seems as though it's a gut reaction among folks to perceive corporate intrusion as a basic violation of their privacy rights. I think that's absurd. You say it's a "bonehead move" as though they violated some sort of basic principle; but they didn't, and I bet that a lot of people don't give a flying fuck that a U2 album popped up in their music feeds.
It seems as though it's a gut reaction among folks to perceive corporate intrusion as a basic violation of their privacy rights. I think that's absurd. You say it's a "bonehead move" as though they violated some sort of basic principle; but they didn't, and I bet that a lot of people don't give a flying fuck that a U2 album popped up in their music feeds.
Sending free music is okay so long as they make sure the person actually wants it first. Music takes space on the device; yeah it can be deleted, but that's an entirely new step they just forced you into.
Bottom line is that they should ask first before putting things onto peoples devices. This is why Apple sucks.
Bottom line is that they should ask first before putting things onto peoples devices. This is why Apple sucks.
Dak
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I have other things to do with my time (as do most people) than to keep clearing stuff off my device I didn't put there. Also, apparently "just delete it" didn't work, as Apple had to post directives on how to clear it. While I'm sure there were some people happy with it, there was enough outrage to spawn quite a few articles about said outrage.
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/apple-built-a-tool-to-help-remove-that-u2-album-from-97580969324.html
Einherjar86
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I find it amusing that your time is so jeopardized by a download. Other people might say they have better things to do with their time than search for music to download.
I'm not saying everyone should buy Apple. I'm saying this kind of reaction - i.e. a technological violation - is unwarranted.
I'm not saying everyone should buy Apple. I'm saying this kind of reaction - i.e. a technological violation - is unwarranted.
Dak
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Would you be upset if you came home and the apt management had deposited a hideous (but new/clean) couch in your apt? You now will lose time disposing of it, and a sense of security in your abode diminished or destroyed.
Einherjar86
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Yes, I would. But that's a couch. We're talking about *gasp!* a digital album that doesn't even require you to handle a compact disc.
You'll probably say something like: "Well, different in degree but same in kind." No, it's not the same in kind. It's part of the agreement and risk of sharing information in a global, technological, digital age. Apartment contracts are part of a set of entirely different historical conditions. The participation in the exchange of digital information entails an entirely new set of conditions and contractual expectations, which are seriously far more convenient and far less intrusive and time-consuming than the weight of a couch.
They don't have to ask your permission. This is part of the contract of living in the digital age. Like Dak said, vote with your wallet. Peace out, or shut the fuck up about it.
And please desist from pointless analogies about landlords leaving new furniture in rented apartments.
They do have to ask you. You paid money for a phone, they should not be wasting your phone memory on data that (chances are) you don't want. They should not be having to make you perform an additional step (deleting the album) just to revert your phone to the state it was before.
Einherjar86
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Okay, I'm sick of whining and bitching about all you bitches whining and bitching.
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Satanstoenail
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I was of course being melodramatic. If it had been the new Radiohead album I probably wouldn't have whinged at all. But that said, I really don't like the idea of having music forced upon me in this way and I hope it doesn't open the floodgates for this sort of thing. Advertising and commercial radio is one thing, but actually shoving the latest bland yawn-rock down my throat is another.
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