The Whining and Bitching Thread

[TechnicalBarbarity]

yes, a ticket. Also known as a citation.

 

[Slammed]

Wow. In this country there is a legal age for smoking but unless the substance is illegal I don't think there is any fine, ticket or citation for smoking. I suppose a cop could take a packet of smokes off a kid but I don't even know that happens.The law is really only enforced at the shop counter where the seller gets big fines if caught selling to a minor.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

yea lot of the times it just depends on if the cop is a prick or not. A lot of other bullshit laws too. For example ditching school wouldnt get you a ticket when i was in middle school, but by the time i got to high school the cops would be catching us and giving us "truancy" tickets. Again, depended on the cop. And if i remember correctly quite a few of my friends got tickets for smoking/having tobacco on them ... but i think they might have changed that law now(in California). But yeah most of the time if a security or teacher caught us they would just take it away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoking_age
if you take a look at the US section, you'll see that in a lot of states it is prohibited for minors to have possession of any type of tobacco related products.

 

[Phylactery]

This reminds me, I got fined £50 for dropping my cigarette on the floor in Manchester a few months back! Ridiculous. I would have been okay with it, except people had dropped far larger things on the street like food, packaging and other waste. Far more noticeable and damaging than a tiny cigarette end. Just another way to target smokers and make even more money off them if you ask me. They also said I was lucky it was only 50 quid as in other cities it can be 150!

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

btw i agree that younger kids shouldn't be smoking and if getting tickets is what needs to be done to check them then i'm all for it. I also think anyone that sells tobacco to underage kids deserves to be fined and even have their business shut down if it keeps happening. I personally think they should have their knee caps smashed in but hey.

 

[Slammed]

I suppose given that the legal age is 18 here and it's a massive fine ($50,000 plus repeat offenders) for the seller it's technically illegal for a child to be in possession too, but I've never heard of a kid being fined for having it.
I also believe vaping is still illegal in this country, but I could be wrong on that.

Dropping a smoke butt in this country has always been fineable and in some area enforced more than others. Through the late 80's and 90's we had a huge push on TV and the like about flicking smoke butts out the windows of moving cars because of the number of smoke butts that caused bush fires. That lead into a "dob it a litter bug" where you could ring the EPA (Environment Protection Agency) and without proof give them a car rego plate and the person would be a fine.

 

[dwellerINTHEdark]

Just another way to target smokers and make even more money off them if you ask me.

This needs to happen more often. But the penalties should be way harsher.

 

[Phylactery]

Well of course you would say that, since you work in the healthcare sector. But I disagree, cigarettes are already taxed extremely heavily in the UK and keep rising and rising. They’re between 8-10 pounds a packet now. They were less than half of that 10-15 years ago.

You’re already made to feel like a leper and looked down upon for being a smoker without all this bullshit. As I said, I would have understood if they were also fining people for dropping all of the shit they were, but they were not. It’s not something I make a habit of btw, I almost always put them in the bin. But there wasn’t one close by.

 

[Slammed]

Don't know how that compares to us but here they are over a dollar a smoke, a packet of 40's now costs between $40 and $55 depending on the brand name stamped on the top. But included in that price you get the photos of diseased lungs, gangrene effect feet and missing teeth where the brand name used to be

 

[CiG]

Petty fines really do rely on the recipient being civil on the spot. Unless he was wearing a body cam or is willing to pull surveillance footage, you could have just said "prove it was me" and rejected the citation.

 

[Slammed]

Bribing works too. When I used to deliver bread I never used to pay for milk, meat or anything else that was delivered to supermarkets during the night but the most worthwhile off the book stop I made was to the local cop shop once a week.

 

[Krow]

Marlboro’s are a little over $6 a pack here. I only know that because my wife smokes the black menthols.

 

[Slammed]

Marlboro 25's haven't been that price here since the 80's I don't reckon.

 

[PrincessHades]

Maybe you should be grateful and appreciative of the opportunity you’ve got of going to a private school and stick to the rules. Instead of whining about it constantly. I bet it costs your parents’ a fortune to send you there.

Theres a difference in perspective. I have an inside view on things, and all I see is that it costs 16k a year, there are less students, they dont have as many government regulations protecting the rights of students, and most of the students are upper middle class-affluent whites. The public school in my area is pretty ghetto but it is more similar to the real world, its free, and being 18 I am protected by a nondisclosure agreement. My parents see it from an outside perspective.

Depends on the state, you can definitely get a ticket for smoking and having possession of tobacco/tobacco products if you're underage in some states.

Yeah I actually heard that the other day, kind of stupid IMO. I dont think it applies in VA.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

a pack of Marlboro reds was 4 bucks and some change when i was in high school. Now a pack of cigarettes are around $10-11 out here.

 

[Slammed]

When smokes went up to about $15 for 30 smokes we started buying it by the kilo (which is illegal) and storing it in the freezer. We used to pay about $40 for a kilo now days the same under the counter stuff is about $120 depending on where you buy it, still expensive but a shitload cheaper than tailor mades that incur all the government taxes and go up in price every six months.

 

[no country for old wainds]

a 20 pack of marlboros is more like £12 here now, probably even more down south. that would've been close to 20 US dollars a few years ago but post-brexit it's more like 15. they're one of the most expensive brands though, the cheapest are holding at about £8 atm

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

actually i think they were around $3.75. Pall Malls were like $3. Parliaments cost like $12-13 bucks a pack in some stores right now lmao

At least our alcohol is much cheaper in comparison to oher states. A bottle of Glenfiddich 12 or Glenlivet 12 is about $20-25 out here while its like $40-50 in other states.

 

[Slammed]

$40 is about average for a 700ml bottle of whiskey/bourbon/rum etc of an alc/vol less than 43% (which I think is 86 proof but I could be wrong). Single malts etc can be a lot dearer and prexmixed cans of bourbon and cola etc (up to about 8%alc) are around the $40 mark for 10
The cheapest beer is about $35 per carton of 24 and "premium" beers can easily double that.

Long fucking wedding TB

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

yea my other sister is getting married tonight. Dat gypsy life.

a 12pk of macrobrews(budweiser and all the other cheapo stuff)out here costs about $12.