Thrash vs. Speed

[IWP]

These arguments over a sub-genre amuse me.

 

[skeptik]

The point is Dodey old buddy, old pal - why do we need Speed as a term? All of the usual suspects that are held up as Speed metal albums are either thrash or power metal prototypes - and Helloween, as much as you might disagree with me, are no exception.

Speed metal, if it ever existed, is a useless term.

No offense, but your ears have gone over the years if you can't decipher Power, Speed, and Thrash Metal from one another.

 

[Carcassian]

No offense, but your ears have gone over the years if you can't decipher Power, Speed, and Thrash Metal from one another.

No offence taken. I can discern between thrash and power just fine, thanks. Speed metal passes me by, I suppose because IT DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST.

 

[skeptik]

stfu

 

[Carcassian]

STFU to someone who voluntarily has Rush on their LAST.FM ? Gaylord.

 

[skeptik]

Rush is an excellent band you load of shit.

 

[Carcassian]

Yeah, for gays and book reading nerdlets, maybe.

 

[CF87]

Video killed Rush.

 

[Matt]

Rush is an excellent band you load of shit.

Rush was one the fathers of metal. Those who don't appreciate it should not listen to metal.

 

[Carcassian]

Dream on. Fathers of metal? Not hardly.

 

[Matt]

So who are the fathers of metal?

 

[Carcassian]

Black Sabbath. Judas Priest. Iron Maiden. Motorhead. Saxon. etc etc etc

 

[Matt]

I would put Rush in there, but you have your opinion, I'll have mine.

 

[Cythraul]

Rush is an excellent band you load of shit.

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[Carcassian]

Rush aren't metal mate - I was just joshing on my old chum Dodens earlier, but you can't seriously consider Rush to be metal, surely ?

 

[CF87]

Metal imo is bleak/about being so i'm not seeing how rush influenced metal or is one of the first or a 'father' of metal music.

 

[MasterOLightning]

Rush is massively influential. They are the only classic rock band I don't find totally tired and stale. Most of their good material doesn't sound dated at all.

 

[Life Sucks]

Most of the people that use the term speed metal these days are people who don't listen to metal, and use it to describe anything heavier that Metallica's black album and lighter than death metal (which some of them call speed metal as well).

 

[Matt]

Rush is massively influential. They are the only classic rock band I don't find totally tired and stale. Most of their good material doesn't sound dated at all.

Yes and Jethro Tull also massively influence numerous bands.

 

[Cythraul]

Most of the people that use the term speed metal these days are people who don't listen to metal, and use it to describe anything heavier that Metallica's black album and lighter than death metal (which some of them call speed metal as well).

There's some truth to that. I remember I was talking to one of my philosophy professors and he looked at my Burzum shirt and asked "What is that? Is it speed metal?" I had to explain to him what Norwegian black metal is. Oh well, the guy knows a hell of a lot about classical music.

edit: he's also black so of course I didn't tell him everything about bm or Burzum.