What do you see as a 'disgrace' to metal music? Why?
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TechnicalBarbarity
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So i guess he has a perfectly fine reason for disliking what he dislikes, since there's more to a riff than just the riff ... no?
TechnicalBarbarity
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who are you arguing with right now? Me or Boris?
Anyway, the riff is by far the most important part of metal is what i'm saying. And no, riffs are without a doubt centric to A LOT of bands/albums/songs. The funny part is you keep trying to explain to me that there's more to metal than just riffs like i'm 13 and just started listening to shitty glam bands yesterday or something, but we both know you are barking up the wrong tree.
Like i said in my first post riffs = king
Anyway, the riff is by far the most important part of metal is what i'm saying. And no, riffs are without a doubt centric to A LOT of bands/albums/songs. The funny part is you keep trying to explain to me that there's more to metal than just riffs like i'm 13 and just started listening to shitty glam bands yesterday or something, but we both know you are barking up the wrong tree.
Like i said in my first post riffs = king
TechnicalBarbarity
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Riffs are important, but bands tend to shine the most when the songwriting is there and the guitar(s), bass and drums really gel as a unit. Having solid fundamentals as a band is the key to greatness for me in most types of metal.
TechnicalBarbarity
Poser Disposer
well yeah no shit .... good songwriting = good songs(for the most part). Bad songwriting = bad songs.
But i guess what's good and bad depends on the listener.
But i guess what's good and bad depends on the listener.
Yeah, but I'm saying the things in my post are what I consider the most important when evaluating a metal band and their songs.
crimsonfloyd
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Yes, only those without the ability to appreciate high art (read: black metal with keyboards) would think that songwriting and ability to compliment one another musically are important.
Dazed and Brutal
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don't u fuck with ildjarn? obviously there are intangibles associated. music is entirely abstract and often times we don't apply the same standards to different artists
Yes, that is why I said this exact thing.
I consider Ildjarn metal myself, but it's definitely an outlier since it's basically just dungeon hardcore punk noise.
Dazed and Brutal
Yall About to Witness
gotcha. these kinds of convos are pointless tbh. not to beat a dead horse, but no attempt at making some type of qualitative framework is going to ever work.
crimsonfloyd
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I just found it funny that you said that musicians playing well together results in good music and, even better, good songwriting results in good songs. You said it like it was some grand insight everyone on this board didn’t realize. I would have loved to see your face when you were struck with this epiphany
I just found it funny that you said that musicians playing well together results in good music and, even better, good songwriting results in good songs. You said it like it was some grand insight everyone on this board didn’t realize. I would have loved to see your face when you were struck with this epiphany
You're more clueless than I ever imagined if you think that I was trying to make an insightful declaration that nobody else had ever thought of before. I was stating my personal opinion on what I enjoy most about bands. I wasn't saying that anyone else who feels otherwise is wrong or that I was making revelatory statement. There is nothing about my post that even implies that I felt that way.
You are the poster child for the exact behavior that you're describing since you claim other people have low metal IQ, can't understand high art and a variety of other vacuous claims that you obviously believe are true when sharing your opinions here. You even posting this about literally anyone else aside from yourself is the very definition of hypocrisy.
crimsonfloyd
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You can try and spin it however you want, but it was a painfully obvious statement. I look forward to your next great gem of wisdom!
@crimsonfloyd
Were you really so threatened by my very casual opinion that you had to project your own desire to be recognized as a voice of enlightenment and authority onto it?
I was pointing out that sometimes the fundamental elements of something are what make it worthwhile. It's not supposed to be a challenging opinion to have.
Were you really so threatened by my very casual opinion that you had to project your own desire to be recognized as a voice of enlightenment and authority onto it?
I was pointing out that sometimes the fundamental elements of something are what make it worthwhile. It's not supposed to be a challenging opinion to have.
Carpe Mortem
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I can get down with that. What I find disgraceful is applaud of what's essentially impaled northern moonforest... Which is intentionally a joke. I'm convinced people are fucking with me when they rave about a band that sounds like that.
crimsonfloyd
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Thanks for explaining your super obvious point a second time. That really cleared things up. #PlebeiansExplainThings
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