What will be the next big thing in metal?
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Andy Sneap
Metal Guru
i hate to say it, but thrash has kinda come back, everything goes in cycles so that means funk metal and grunge are about to hit, tho the clips of the new Alice In Chains stuff sound pretty promising..... we may have a few rough years ahead of us.
Ermz
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I've heard people mentioning that thrash is coming back, but I have no idea where it's coming from. All I hear through mainstream outlets is that horrible metal/emo/screamo/whateverthefuck core music. I think we've skipped ahead a generation or so... Limp Bizkit's reunion might ride the wave of nu/rap-metal renewal.
Machinated
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i think the technical stuff has been way overdone over the last few years, so I can see the simpler grungey/nu metally stuff creeping back into the scene again.
Uladyne
Greg
:zombie: What is heard cannot be unheard. :zombie:
I hope they die soon. In a literal sense.
Line666
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I don't think there will be a revival of any form of metal that will stay for the duration. People feel the need for progression, repeat too much of the same shit and it becomes obvious - no modern thrash bands are interesting because, lets face it, someone wrote the same riffs twenty fuckin' years ago.
I think as far as more mainstream metal is concerned, we'll start to see the adoption of more counter-culture attitudes as the global economic crisis takes hold and shit really starts to hit the fan, less mainstream metal tends to pander toward ideas that arent concerned with society in general, so either less mainstream metal will evolve into new forms or it will die because it has nowhere else to go, it will die out when its limits are peaked, like the death of hardcore as it became unfocused on what it wanted to achieve. At the moment we're seeing a rather bastardisation of the genre, everyone wants to combine everything with everything else, the difficulty is differentiating between an entirely new idea or focus and just a plain gimmick.
Metal is really for people who don't want to accept any culture what so ever though - it disassociates itself with conforming or rebelling against a system because it doesn't want to acknowledge such a system in the first place, so it is the current last refuge of anyone who wants to really think outside the box. The problem with all this is that as Metal has become a culture in itself - where trends and ideas have become diluted forms of themselves, so the genre has become a bit of a parody of itself, the real focus is gone, theres nothing outside culture about metal anymore, because its absorbed into what it always fought against, it's no longer threatening because it's become part of the system. Its nihilistic and pariah mentalities have no integrity left.
I think as far as more mainstream metal is concerned, we'll start to see the adoption of more counter-culture attitudes as the global economic crisis takes hold and shit really starts to hit the fan, less mainstream metal tends to pander toward ideas that arent concerned with society in general, so either less mainstream metal will evolve into new forms or it will die because it has nowhere else to go, it will die out when its limits are peaked, like the death of hardcore as it became unfocused on what it wanted to achieve. At the moment we're seeing a rather bastardisation of the genre, everyone wants to combine everything with everything else, the difficulty is differentiating between an entirely new idea or focus and just a plain gimmick.
Metal is really for people who don't want to accept any culture what so ever though - it disassociates itself with conforming or rebelling against a system because it doesn't want to acknowledge such a system in the first place, so it is the current last refuge of anyone who wants to really think outside the box. The problem with all this is that as Metal has become a culture in itself - where trends and ideas have become diluted forms of themselves, so the genre has become a bit of a parody of itself, the real focus is gone, theres nothing outside culture about metal anymore, because its absorbed into what it always fought against, it's no longer threatening because it's become part of the system. Its nihilistic and pariah mentalities have no integrity left.
It is my opinion that Andy is correct that music moves in 20-year cycles and that right now we're in the so-called "80's Metal phase" with bad emo hair-swept-over-one-eye-with-dyed-chunks style taking over from the big, teased aquanet classic.
However, I think that strangely, there WON'T be a "Next Big Thing". A "Next Big Thing" (henceforth to be referred to as the acronym "NBT") requires a more focused music listener than the vast share of today's audience can provide. I don't think that there is enough attention being divulged on any one band, or better yet, group of bands to set off a chain reaction. I think that illegal downloading has made it difficult enough to find footing as a band financially because between myspace and bit torrents, we've basically invited everyone in for free cookies and beer, got stampeded and either were deemed unpopular enough to be ignored, or they cased the joint, decided they liked our TV and broke in when we were out later that night and stole it from us.
Furthermore, thanks to genre-crossing bands, everyone listens to everythign and there is no target audience anymore. When a product has no target audience, it dies. Business school 101.
However, music isn't like any other product. If you ask someone what kind of beer they like and they may say "I don't drink beer, I drink wine" or "I don't drink". Or something. Not many people seem to have noticed that when they attempt to strike up a conversation with someone else, they always say "what kind of music do you like?" not "Do you like music?". I have never run into anyone who said they flat-out didn't like music. My theory: Music is like sex. We all want it.
Thanks to the DAW and the internet (or even more broadly, computers) we can all make music now and no longer need to pay anyone to make or listen to it. My experience with human beings also dictates that once we have something we start taking it for granted but the moment it is taken away we are infuriated.
In other words and to bring it all home, my theory is that the music industry will never be the same again and that due to all the aforementioned information, that a NBT is a lot more unlikely to occur from this point on. In terms of acts like say, Nirvana anyways. But, in terms of genre cycles, I agree, with Mr. Sneap; there will always be popular movements. Next stop, grunge, baby. Once more into the breach...
However, I think that strangely, there WON'T be a "Next Big Thing". A "Next Big Thing" (henceforth to be referred to as the acronym "NBT") requires a more focused music listener than the vast share of today's audience can provide. I don't think that there is enough attention being divulged on any one band, or better yet, group of bands to set off a chain reaction. I think that illegal downloading has made it difficult enough to find footing as a band financially because between myspace and bit torrents, we've basically invited everyone in for free cookies and beer, got stampeded and either were deemed unpopular enough to be ignored, or they cased the joint, decided they liked our TV and broke in when we were out later that night and stole it from us.
Furthermore, thanks to genre-crossing bands, everyone listens to everythign and there is no target audience anymore. When a product has no target audience, it dies. Business school 101.
However, music isn't like any other product. If you ask someone what kind of beer they like and they may say "I don't drink beer, I drink wine" or "I don't drink". Or something. Not many people seem to have noticed that when they attempt to strike up a conversation with someone else, they always say "what kind of music do you like?" not "Do you like music?". I have never run into anyone who said they flat-out didn't like music. My theory: Music is like sex. We all want it.
Thanks to the DAW and the internet (or even more broadly, computers) we can all make music now and no longer need to pay anyone to make or listen to it. My experience with human beings also dictates that once we have something we start taking it for granted but the moment it is taken away we are infuriated.
In other words and to bring it all home, my theory is that the music industry will never be the same again and that due to all the aforementioned information, that a NBT is a lot more unlikely to occur from this point on. In terms of acts like say, Nirvana anyways. But, in terms of genre cycles, I agree, with Mr. Sneap; there will always be popular movements. Next stop, grunge, baby. Once more into the breach...
Razzee
Kolja
nursery rhymes!
about that techno thing, I don't know nintendocore is out there for long now. but it's very popular at the moment to have some techno parts.
check we butter the bread with butter and as the world fades etc
about that techno thing, I don't know nintendocore is out there for long now. but it's very popular at the moment to have some techno parts.
check we butter the bread with butter and as the world fades etc
TravisW
Member
Grunge next? In the USA, it never really left. Well, post-grunge never left. Popular (meaning radio plays it) hard rock music here hasn't changed significantly in a decade.
Chryst Krispies
Vanilla Gorilla
Yeah the station I listen to has a whole hour dedicated to nuthing but grunge. It always hits on my way home from school too. Hhaha.
I hate Pearl Jam.
Alice in Chains was the only decent band in my ears from that period.
TOTALLY agreed, I really can't get into Soundgarden (not a fan of Chris Cornell's voice), and Nirvana can suck every penis on the eastern seaboard
slashvanyoung
Dopefish lives!
Well I'm a huge AIC fan and I like Pearl Jam a lot, so it's no surprise I also dig Mad Season very much. Temple Of The Dog was cool too... better than Soundgarden IMO. And what about the Screaming Trees? Mark Lanegan is a genius!
Then there were these bands I like to call "proto grunge", like Green River, Mudhoney and Mother Love Bone... they weren't that bad either.
But still, AIC shines like a diamond in a pile of shit among them...
Then there were these bands I like to call "proto grunge", like Green River, Mudhoney and Mother Love Bone... they weren't that bad either.
But still, AIC shines like a diamond in a pile of shit among them...
botus99
Microphone Assassin
This sums up my opinion on grunge to a T!
.... except Ten is the only Pearl Jam I can get into
Mudhoney is VERY underrated
My step brother does not listen to music. He does not own a single album. It frightens me.
Maybe the next big thing is that there will be no more big things.
The industry won´t spend any money on new ideas because they are too risky.
They are happy with the "big bands" they have because they still earn enough money with them. Any investments in new bands will be postponed until the day the industry is sick of itself.
Other than that I hope that one day quality stands before quantity again like in the 80´s. Who needs 1235839 bands which all sound the same?
I´d rather have 30 bands that are unique and not a million clones from others.
The industry won´t spend any money on new ideas because they are too risky.
They are happy with the "big bands" they have because they still earn enough money with them. Any investments in new bands will be postponed until the day the industry is sick of itself.
Other than that I hope that one day quality stands before quantity again like in the 80´s. Who needs 1235839 bands which all sound the same?
I´d rather have 30 bands that are unique and not a million clones from others.
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