Why the hell does someone think Dream Theater sucks?!
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Don Corleone
Emre
Hiljainen
why can't we not be sober
One comment, someone on Mike Portnoys board said he was speaking with james labrie after a show in march, James messed up his vocal chords by throwing up food that was poisoned in 1995 in Cuba. Take a listen his voice took a radical change after Awake. Its still great IMO but no where near where it was.
Kurt
Kurt
deadly fog
The Phanton Of Death
dream theater are one of the best bands evert every one there is a grate artist i mean their gitur player is so grate!!!
and god damit did u saw how their bass player was plaing with 10 strings bass gitur?????
and god damit did u saw how their bass player was plaing with 10 strings bass gitur?????
Don Corleone
Emre
That's why it sounds so much different... listening to Awake tour boots, then FII shows you can definitely hear it, especially in "Voices."
Freddy Krueger
The Dream Child
DT is alright I suppose, but they're nothing compared to Symphony X. Russel and Michael Romeo make that band kick some serious ass, and put the competition like DT to sleep man.
I wouldn't say DT sucks, but I'd much rather be listening to Symphony X if I'm gonna listen to Prog.
I wouldn't say DT sucks, but I'd much rather be listening to Symphony X if I'm gonna listen to Prog.
JesusChristPose
Logic Dictates
Symphony X is very good, but they can't touch Dream Theater...and certainly in the keyboard area ~ Why does SX keyboardist sound like he playing a casio keyboard? Also, SX forces their solos on the listeners, they would be a much better band if they would eliminate their forced solos.
I like Symphony X but, IMO they need more variation. Their vocalist is strong, but there are too many Yngwie-isms in Romeo's playing, and there aren't enough different kinds of songs.
Satori
Destructosaur
I was the cunt who started that Dream Theatre sucks donkey dick thread a long time ago (*hold for applause*).
I see there is still some confusion surrounding this issue so allow me to clarify:
There is a difference between being technically proficient and having artistic integrity. No one disputes their profiency, unless of course it's to rag on the fact that they could probably do more with their talent than they are doing (well, except for Labrie of course, someone should really tell that guy the 80's are over and they aren't coming back any time soon). It's the cheese factor. That's why the suck. If you happen to like that brand of american glam cheese then that's great, but if you do not, to you they suck. I like some cheese (a lot of Kate Bush is cheesy but I still think it's great), as does everyone I'm sure, but this particular brand of cheese doesn't appeal to me. I prefer my cheese to come in a hard block that I have to cut with a knife to enjoy, not the dt style of (process) cheese that comes in those single serving slices and is strangely reminescent of baby vomit. Sometimes, when something is too easily accessible and generic, it becomes rather inorganic and artificial to the tastes (can you hear the fruity keyboards off in the distance?).
To me, this band represents some of the worst qualities and characteristics of professional musicians. Why is it that so many great players are so goddamn cheesy? It seems if they aren't busy being a backup band for Britney or appearing on Conan O'Brien, they are playing some ultra-cheese "we got the funk" jazz bullshit - or, like in the case of dt, crooning, masturbating, and putting on this huge front of fake, forced, and uptight emotion that would make Martha Stewart as happy as a cracked-out whore on a Saturday night with several varieties of semen encrusted in the stubble below her painted on eyebrows.
Donkey dick.
Satori
I see there is still some confusion surrounding this issue so allow me to clarify:
There is a difference between being technically proficient and having artistic integrity. No one disputes their profiency, unless of course it's to rag on the fact that they could probably do more with their talent than they are doing (well, except for Labrie of course, someone should really tell that guy the 80's are over and they aren't coming back any time soon). It's the cheese factor. That's why the suck. If you happen to like that brand of american glam cheese then that's great, but if you do not, to you they suck. I like some cheese (a lot of Kate Bush is cheesy but I still think it's great), as does everyone I'm sure, but this particular brand of cheese doesn't appeal to me. I prefer my cheese to come in a hard block that I have to cut with a knife to enjoy, not the dt style of (process) cheese that comes in those single serving slices and is strangely reminescent of baby vomit. Sometimes, when something is too easily accessible and generic, it becomes rather inorganic and artificial to the tastes (can you hear the fruity keyboards off in the distance?).
To me, this band represents some of the worst qualities and characteristics of professional musicians. Why is it that so many great players are so goddamn cheesy? It seems if they aren't busy being a backup band for Britney or appearing on Conan O'Brien, they are playing some ultra-cheese "we got the funk" jazz bullshit - or, like in the case of dt, crooning, masturbating, and putting on this huge front of fake, forced, and uptight emotion that would make Martha Stewart as happy as a cracked-out whore on a Saturday night with several varieties of semen encrusted in the stubble below her painted on eyebrows.
Donkey dick.
Satori
J.
Old Fart
Well, looks like Satori and I finally agree on something. Dream Theater does indeed, suck donkey dick.
JesusChristPose
Logic Dictates
"It's the cheese factor. That's why the suck"
~ It's cool, what you think, however your opinion isn't fact and that's cool too.
Dream Theater rocks.
~ It's cool, what you think, however your opinion isn't fact and that's cool too.
Dream Theater rocks.
I like DT a lot. But I seldom listen to them these days, actually.
I can fully understand why many dislike them. I did in the start
when they released Images & Words, I was like.. wtf is this
gay shit! But the music was just too good to let go, even though
I hated the vox. I have not read a single post in this thread this
time... but I bet there is a lot going on about how they are
technically good but cannot make songs, and thal LaBrie just
sucks and sings like a girlie, and that they dress like fags.. etc
etc. I think DT is a very good band with a lot to 'say' (except from
one certain Falling...)..........
\m/ Norwegian black metal is supreme \m/
I can fully understand why many dislike them. I did in the start
when they released Images & Words, I was like.. wtf is this
gay shit! But the music was just too good to let go, even though
I hated the vox. I have not read a single post in this thread this
time... but I bet there is a lot going on about how they are
technically good but cannot make songs, and thal LaBrie just
sucks and sings like a girlie, and that they dress like fags.. etc
etc. I think DT is a very good band with a lot to 'say' (except from
one certain Falling...)..........
\m/ Norwegian black metal is supreme \m/
Obyeybyeogone
New Metal Member
I bought one DT CD, ATOS, and I liked it for a while, but it's just boring. I would rather listen to Nirvana than DT, they are at opposite ends of the spectrum. DT plays really well, but bores the hell out of me, and Nirvana plays simple music that just has personality to it, which appeals to me more.
I actually don't like most of the progmetal bands, I can't stand symphony X or Spiral architecht etc. If i'm going to listen to prog i'll listen to something from the 70's, if i'm going to listen to metal i'll listen to Celtic Frost or Atheist or something.
I actually don't like most of the progmetal bands, I can't stand symphony X or Spiral architecht etc. If i'm going to listen to prog i'll listen to something from the 70's, if i'm going to listen to metal i'll listen to Celtic Frost or Atheist or something.
In my opinion DT are still a heck of a band. It's just that 6DOIT goes a bit idealess and flat, specially with CD-1...
It'd seriously be the time to "take the time" and use it for songwriting, yes, agreed.
LaBrie can sometimes mess songs up good with the screaming. It's just that Dream Theater doesn't give the VIBES anymore that Opeth does (like in Still Life's Godhead's Lament clean part). I COULD recommend the mp3's (for example) of X-mas CD '99. Has some good songs like "Raise The Knife".
Aaand finally talking about side-projects, It's funny how Portnoy always seems to be forming these. From those I like Transatlantic the most (mainly because Neal Morse and Roine Stolt CAN write GOOD Neo-Prog songs) !
It'd seriously be the time to "take the time" and use it for songwriting, yes, agreed.
LaBrie can sometimes mess songs up good with the screaming. It's just that Dream Theater doesn't give the VIBES anymore that Opeth does (like in Still Life's Godhead's Lament clean part). I COULD recommend the mp3's (for example) of X-mas CD '99. Has some good songs like "Raise The Knife".
Aaand finally talking about side-projects, It's funny how Portnoy always seems to be forming these. From those I like Transatlantic the most (mainly because Neal Morse and Roine Stolt CAN write GOOD Neo-Prog songs) !
deadly fog
...and god damit did u saw how their bass player was plaing with 10 strings bass gitur?????
Yeah dude! I saw that and I was impressed. I have to admit. It was a small venue, Lupo's (spelling?) and we were right in front and the bass player (I've said this before) had this STICK with like 20 strings on it and he wasn't even looking but played it incredibly. I did enjoy that bit.
...and god damit did u saw how their bass player was plaing with 10 strings bass gitur?????
Yeah dude! I saw that and I was impressed. I have to admit. It was a small venue, Lupo's (spelling?) and we were right in front and the bass player (I've said this before) had this STICK with like 20 strings on it and he wasn't even looking but played it incredibly. I did enjoy that bit.
"I prefer my cheese to come in a hard block that I have to cut with a knife to enjoy, not the dt style of (process) cheese that comes in those single serving slices and is strangely reminescent of baby vomit."
ENCORE! Cheese analogies are fkn great.
ENCORE! Cheese analogies are fkn great. 
Autumn Falls
Ace Harding, P.I.
Opet what I think you are talking about is the Chapman Stick and it doesn't have quite twenty strings but it IS a great instrument. I like Tony Levin and Sean Malone on it the best..
Brandon
Brandon
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