Wintersun opinions?

I don't really find any of the bands that you named to be more passionate or legitimate than DragonForce. DragonForce is definitely a terrible band, but there's unfortunately nothing about them that allows you to deem them fake just because you view their music as shallow and superficial. They're still clearly a real band, and at least they have the guts to not fake a pretense of being overly serious like the other bands that you named, as if they're doing something groundbreakingly new and exciting on every new album

Yeah uh Sonata Arctica and Kamelot don't really do that and the fact that you just said Dragonforce have "guts" in any respect is pretty funny. Wintersun is definitely a prime example of what you stated though, but I don't think including other bands in your generalization (;)) is worthwhile especially when it's false.

Anyway both of you should clearly just let it go. And Jenn I find it funny that you would tell people that they're allowed to disagree with someone else's opinions when you (even though you're like so totally unserious :lol:) are the main person everyone points the finger at for being intolerant of the opinions of others. I think you might benefit from following your own advice, even if you think it's funny to pretend you're objectively right about everything.
 
IntoPhagist: I'm the one who pointed out that Sonata Arctica are, collectively, a bunch of cock sucking and worthless faggots who shouldn't even be classified as metal.

I just wanted to address your criticism under the supposition that I attacked them because they're "not black or death metal." I can guarantee you that I listen to more clean-vocal styled metal than pretty much anyone else on this forum, or at least most. I don't think Sonata Arctica is a wart on the dick of metal because they're not "XTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM," but rather because they're just fucking shit. They're flowery fucking bullshit pop faggotry. If you want an idea of what kind of sounds I identify with power metal, look into classic US bands like Attacker, Griffin, Omen, Satan's Host, Titan Force, Chozzen Phate, Salem Spade, Syrus, King's Ransom, Helstar, Fates Warning, and other bands of that calibre.

Finally, for the record, all I did in this thread was state my opinion. I was the one who was attacked based on my opinion of Wintersun, not the other way around, including by yourself. So wouldn't that make you the elitist? Or did I just blow your fucking mind?
 
Yeah uh Sonata Arctica and Kamelot don't really do that...

Thank you, Andy. Sonata Arctica I don't care as much about, but as far as Kamelot goes I definitely agree.

Finally, for the record, all I did in this thread was state my opinion. I was the one who was attacked based on my opinion of Wintersun, not the other way around, including by yourself. So wouldn't that make you the elitist? Or did I just blow your fucking mind?

:lol: at you not being an elitist.
 
Speaking negatively about bands that I don't like is not elitism. And elitism is not inherently a bad thing, either.
 
Speaking negatively about bands that I don't like is not elitism.

Yes, but thinking that you're better than those who like said bands is elitist.

And elitism is not inherently a bad thing, either.

I never said it was. I'm only laughing at you accusing others of being elitist when you clearly are.

Whatever, I don't really care. I think I'm better than you, so I suppose it all evens out.
 
Yes, but thinking that you're better than those who like said bands is elitist.

I never said nor expressed sentiment to the effect that I believed I was better than anybody else based on the criteria of whether or not they like Wintersun. I'm not even going to dignify the rest of your post.

I don't get it. I don't get why I get under your skin so much. Is it because I showed that Tales of Medusa is an actual band and you're upset that you can't hear them? I really think you should work on not being annoyed by a person on the internet to the point where you get angry whenever they say something negative about a band you like. The only other person who does that here is Jofa, and he's retarded.
 
Can you like leave this forum and become a defense attorney or something yet?

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Wintersun sounds to me like a shallow, plastic and cheesy try at being epic. there is no depth, no spirit in Jari's music. at least not on the debut album.
he is obviously a skilled guitar player, but he definitely failed as a songwriter
 
This thread is hilarious. We need to bring intophagist back in here. Right now it just seems like a tag-team match; Einherjer and intophagist vs domni.
 
Haha Mr. Bungle...I love hanging out in UM now...I never really stay for long..Usually fighting about Metal on LAST.FM but I like you people...You on here everynight?

I've been here for a year, but never really posted much. Been on more lately.
 
Hahaha, who would've thought there would be so many arguments in a fucking "give your opinion on Wintersun" thread. It's actually kind of funny. I still think somebody needs to do a rant on Sonic Syndicate though.