American "black metal"?

[Never78]

What a load of crap. Black metal is about the person/people involved in creating it; not where they are. If the ideal is right, and the artistic talent is there, then you have good black metal. Most Americans are idiots, yes, but there are those of us who are different from them, and create music demonstrating our contempt for stupidity and the modern world (american ignorance certainly included).

Norway generated the best black metal in history, but it was an ideal; a feeling. It is a rare thing, that is why it was exclusive for so long. If you do not get the idea, you do not get black metal, and you make boring crap like Judas Iscariot. I swear he just took a bunch of random riffs and slammed them together with no effort; contrary to what the music is supposed to be about. Black metal is not about making music that sounds evil. It is about art, the highest levels of the human mind, and transcending the boundaries of a stagnant and programmed society. Why am I explaining this again? I am sure noone gets it anyway.

 

[D-KOM]

http://inm.necrobation.org/ are the masterminds of american Black Metal, just noone knows it. They are totally into the old mysterious principles of this obscure style fo music.

 

[Birkenau]

What a load of crap. Black metal is about the person/people involved in creating it; not where they are. If the ideal is right, and the artistic talent is there, then you have good black metal. Most Americans are idiots, yes, but there are those of us who are different from them, and create music demonstrating our contempt for stupidity and the modern world (american ignorance certainly included).

Norway generated the best black metal in history, but it was an ideal; a feeling. It is a rare thing, that is why it was exclusive for so long. If you do not get the idea, you do not get black metal, and you make boring crap like Judas Iscariot. I swear he just took a bunch of random riffs and slammed them together with no effort; contrary to what the music is supposed to be about. Black metal is not about making music that sounds evil. It is about art, the highest levels of the human mind, and transcending the boundaries of a stagnant and programmed society. Why am I explaining this again? I am sure noone gets it anyway.

Thank you. :Spin:

 

[Gory Elephant]

What about Fog?
Woods Of Ypres?
Demoncy?
Hordes Of Nebullah?
And whomever posted about black dawn the band you were thinking is called
The True Black Dawn and to me they a awesome black/death metal hybrid
band from Vassa Finland.

That was me. The "Black Dawn" I am thinking of did that absolutely vicious album called "Blood for Satan". Is that the one you are talking about? I guess I was not sure where they were from, but I thought it was America. Either way.... I recommend Blood for Satan to anyone. Great CD. Nasty & Violent.

Mike

 

[Birkenau]

They changed it to The True Black Dawn because of legal problems or something, and they are from Finland.

 

[ACIDBATHER]

Does anyone really believe that there exist enough diversity in metal, especially where sound dynamics and themes are concerned-to warrant half a million subgenres like "blackened thrash" in the first place?


Can you say DIVIDE AND CONQUER?

 

[Life Sucks]

Yeah, especially this band:
http://www.metalhordes.com/bleak/twilight/

There is another bm band from Greece with the same name, that is actually pretty good.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

the best north american metal band is nevermore. as far as black metal....hmmm

 

[Nag]

I dunno.. Impaled Northern Moonforest is pretty grim and necro..

 

[skeptik]

That looks like...

I've yet to hear this band, but due to the fact that they have integral ties to the spectacular Hail, I don't mock them. Of course, that's a horrendous name, but whatever, so is using a word from an invented language as your band name.

 

[no country for old wainds]

Demoncy always comes first you inbred imbeciles.

 

[skeptik]

But they're not Black Metal, remember?

 

[no country for old wainds]

oh

 

[KMADD]

How do you desrcibe Demoncy? Blackened doom? To me at least their first
two cds sounded kind of like Beherit. I haven't heard their last cd when
I saw them live a couple of years ago here in Indy they sounded like
black metal to me at least their newer material.

 

[skeptik]

They're from America though, they can't possibly create Black Metal.

 

[no country for old wainds]

How do you desrcibe Demoncy? Blackened doom? To me at least their first
two cds sounded kind of like Beherit. I haven't heard their last cd when
I saw them live a couple of years ago here in Indy they sounded like
black metal to me at least their newer material.

Darkthrone + Beherit = black metal

 

[KMADD]

Well I know cause I have cds of both bands. But I think there is fairly
good number of USBM and Canadian bands although I agree that the
Europeans are masters of the craft although.

 

[SteveO)))]

Yeah, what about Woods of Ypres?

And Agalloch's early material boasted strong BM leanings, in the vein of Ulver.

This thread should be pirated into an American Black Metal Recommendation Thread, because the original post was shit, the poster is shit, and the argument of which black metal scene is better is a full-bown shit piñata and a half.

I say check out Grand Belial's Key, Tearstained, Absu, Leviathan, Weakling, and maybe even Goatwhore if you know what's good for you.

All right, someone on this site finally mentioned Goatwhore

As for American BM, I've listened to Grand Belial's Key and Leviathan; and thought they were both fairly good. Never really listend to Xarthur, both I've heard a lot of two-way criticism, so I really don't know what to expect..

 

[skeptik]

Xasthur is embrarassingly monotonous and tedius, rarely progressing or moving on to an interesting idea. This is my experience, at least, listening to A Gate Through Bloodstained Mirrors (if that's what it's called), Nocturnal Poisoning, The Funeral Of Being, and To Violate The Oblivious. The best thing Malefic has ever done was covering Mutiilation.

 

[Nag]

Xasthur is embrarassingly monotonous and tedius, rarely progressing or moving on to an interesting idea. This is my experience, at least, listening to A Gate Through Bloodstained Mirrors (if that's what it's called), Nocturnal Poisoning, The Funeral Of Being, and To Violate The Oblivious. The best thing Malefic has ever done was covering Mutiilation.

Glad to see someone else not enjoy xasthur.