Black Metal.

[skeptik]

A message from Averse Sefira:

ATTENTION: To all weekenders, hipsters, novelty seekers, scenesters, and assorted parasites of the underground – we, the purveyors and fans of metal pre-1990 are taking back our music from you scum. It was never yours, you don't understand it, and we don't need your permission, approval, or support to continue. You idiots have done nothing but bastardize and trivialize it for almost a decade and we are sick of it. You allowed nu-metal and metalcore to happen. You allowed a cartoon band to release the “biggest selling death metal album of all time”. You take from us and offer nothing in return other than complaining and self-impressed criticism. The veterans are coming back in droves, and their music is not for you. Everything you think you know is once again irrelevant. You are irrelevant. Prepare to be marginalized like the non-people you are. Find a different genre to exercise your neuroses. There is no place for you at this table any longer. Fuck you. We're taking it back.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

That kind of shit is getting to be fucking stupid and hilarious.

 

[challenge_everything]

I'll make sure I get Averse Sefira's permission next time I listen to their music.

 

[Blind Guardian]

I love N Crugu...it's so swampy and dense.

I'm still waiting for that one, but if it's similar to Om I can tell that I'll really like it.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

That kind of shit is getting to be fucking stupid and hilarious.

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I don't like nu-metal or metalcore either but these kind of genres are going to exist wheteher people like it or not. I don't know why more people don't just ignore it.

 

[unknown]

lol @ averse sefira being angry at the explosion of metal

 

[Manic Ferocity]

It's not like this is the first time there's been an explosion of "metal" anyway (the 80s glam scene comes to mind).

 

[Zephyrus]

Don't mess with Texas BM.

 

[skeptik]

I think you're all missing the point, but I'm going to leave it at that.

 

[Master_Yoda77]

DEATH TO ALL FALSE METAL!

 

[Crimson Velvet]

What is the point, then?


Oh, and lol @ Averse Sefira thinking they're relevant.

Signed, pre-1990 metalhead.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

I think you're all missing the point, but I'm going to leave it at that.

You would, mainly because you are hilariously over-serious about how metal must be pure and untainted. It is amusing to me.

 

[Eligos]

That kind of shit is getting to be fucking stupid and hilarious.

Reminds me of a much shorter version of Ildjarn's statements.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

His aren't as ridiculously tryhard-sounding, though.

 

[skeptik]

What is the point, then?


Oh, and lol @ Averse Sefira thinking they're relevant.

Signed, pre-1990 metalhead.

Do you actually know much about the band?

You would, mainly because you are hilariously over-serious about how metal must be pure and untainted. It is amusing to me.

I'm sorry that I don't treat everything in my life as mere entertainment and that the prospect of others viewing things in a different light is greatly disconcerting to you.

 

[Crimson Velvet]

Do you actually know much about the band?

I own their first three records, if that counts for anything. Care to elaborate on what I am clearly missing?

 

[cookiecutter]

Averse Sefira have shamed me

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

I'm sorry that I don't treat everything in my life as mere entertainment and that the prospect of others viewing things in a different light is greatly disconcerting to you.

you can't be serious. You're completely off the mark; what AS are spouting is whiny elitist bullshit, and they should get over themselves...you could learn something from that as well.

 

[Manic Ferocity]

I'm sorry that I don't treat everything in my life as mere entertainment and that the prospect of others viewing things in a different light is greatly disconcerting to you.

Yeah, but some people do see music as a "mere form of entertainment." Who cares? There doesn't need to be a militant uprising of dedicated old school metal fans in order to purge metal of the "oh so bothersome scenesters who don't get it."

*expects response along the lines of "you're missing the point"*

 

[skeptik]

http://aversesefira.blogspot.com/
http://aversesefira.blogspot.com/2009/07/attention-to-all-weekenders-hipsters.html

First off, I'd like to know who you consider relevant today within the scope of the genre, because, especially with their last two albums, I feel that Averse Sefira ranks among the most relevant metal bands today in terms of their lyrical, ideological, and musical conceptions.

I think that, taken with a more read understanding of the band's principles and given what this statement is, which is a blog post of chest beating, paying homage to those who take their craft seriously and produce music that is representative of the principles that have been linked to the genre from the beginning, there is no reason to take Wrath's words as somehow greatly absurd. It was, foremost, simply a bit of gloating about the return of some excellent seminal musicians who have actually produced work that is worthy of their legacy and a celebration of those who have extended that legacy. I think that Averse Sefira has been and continues to be an important extension of that legacy. Anybody who has invested as much passion and conviction into their craft as they have will probably find things such as Dethklok and Arsonists Get All the Girls as a symptom of something having gone wrong, of an overabundance of control within metal by people who don't take it as seriously or that don't represent it in the ways that some feel that they should. I actually didn't expect to see the reactions that were given here. I wonder what the reactions would have been if the perennial jester, Fenriz, had said it. I thought that people would respond favorably to an artist taking what they do seriously and saluting those who share their position, unless they felt they were under attack in their statement.

Edit: Why does it feel as though I'm under attack for not thinking that Averse Sefira is a bunch of faggots?

you can't be serious. You're completely off the mark; what AS are spouting is whiny elitist bullshit, and they should get over themselves...you could learn something from that as well.

Why don't you try to explain the problem with what they're saying beyond using substance-less phrases like "whiny elitist bullshit"? Or perhaps view that message within the broader context of the band's mode of operation?

Yeah, but some people do see music as a "mere form of entertainment." Who cares? There doesn't need to be a militant uprising of dedicated old school metal fans in order to purge metal of the "oh so bothersome scenesters who don't get it."

Why is it a problem for a metal musician to be concerned with issues pertaining to the form of music to which he has dedicated a part of his life? First of all, he's not calling for a crusade, he's merely acknowledging the seeming return of metal to the 'right' path. "Who cares?" Not you, but is it wrong for a musician involved within the scene to at least make an observation and comment on it? I didn't see anywhere in that statement that implied that these people should be mutilated and chastised and hanged. It's not like he wakes up in the middle of the night perplexed over the fact that Dethklok exists, but does that mean that nobody should find it annoying or stupid? Just because it means nothing to you doesn't mean that it's pointless for it to mean something to somebody else.