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http://aversesefira.blogspot.com/
http://aversesefira.blogspot.com/2009/07/attention-to-all-weekenders-hipsters.html
First off, I'd like to know who you consider relevant today within the scope of the genre, because, especially with their last two albums, I feel that Averse Sefira ranks among the most relevant metal bands today in terms of their lyrical, ideological, and musical conceptions.
I think that, taken with a more read understanding of the band's principles and given what this statement is, which is a blog post of chest beating, paying homage to those who take their craft seriously and produce music that is representative of the principles that have been linked to the genre from the beginning, there is no reason to take Wrath's words as somehow greatly absurd. It was, foremost, simply a bit of gloating about the return of some excellent seminal musicians who have actually produced work that is worthy of their legacy and a celebration of those who have extended that legacy. I think that Averse Sefira has been and continues to be an important extension of that legacy. Anybody who has invested as much passion and conviction into their craft as they have will probably find things such as Dethklok and Arsonists Get All the Girls as a symptom of something having gone wrong, of an overabundance of control within metal by people who don't take it as seriously or that don't represent it in the ways that some feel that they should. I actually didn't expect to see the reactions that were given here. I wonder what the reactions would have been if the perennial jester, Fenriz, had said it. I thought that people would respond favorably to an artist taking what they do seriously and saluting those who share their position, unless they felt they were under attack in their statement.
Edit: Why does it feel as though I'm under attack for not thinking that Averse Sefira is a bunch of faggots?
Why don't you try to explain the problem with what they're saying beyond using substance-less phrases like "whiny elitist bullshit"? Or perhaps view that message within the broader context of the band's mode of operation?
Why is it a problem for a metal musician to be concerned with issues pertaining to the form of music to which he has dedicated a part of his life? First of all, he's not calling for a crusade, he's merely acknowledging the seeming return of metal to the 'right' path. "Who cares?" Not you, but is it wrong for a musician involved within the scene to at least make an observation and comment on it? I didn't see anywhere in that statement that implied that these people should be mutilated and chastised and hanged. It's not like he wakes up in the middle of the night perplexed over the fact that Dethklok exists, but does that mean that nobody should find it annoying or stupid? Just because it means nothing to you doesn't mean that it's pointless for it to mean something to somebody else.
http://aversesefira.blogspot.com/2009/07/attention-to-all-weekenders-hipsters.html
First off, I'd like to know who you consider relevant today within the scope of the genre, because, especially with their last two albums, I feel that Averse Sefira ranks among the most relevant metal bands today in terms of their lyrical, ideological, and musical conceptions.
I think that, taken with a more read understanding of the band's principles and given what this statement is, which is a blog post of chest beating, paying homage to those who take their craft seriously and produce music that is representative of the principles that have been linked to the genre from the beginning, there is no reason to take Wrath's words as somehow greatly absurd. It was, foremost, simply a bit of gloating about the return of some excellent seminal musicians who have actually produced work that is worthy of their legacy and a celebration of those who have extended that legacy. I think that Averse Sefira has been and continues to be an important extension of that legacy. Anybody who has invested as much passion and conviction into their craft as they have will probably find things such as Dethklok and Arsonists Get All the Girls as a symptom of something having gone wrong, of an overabundance of control within metal by people who don't take it as seriously or that don't represent it in the ways that some feel that they should. I actually didn't expect to see the reactions that were given here. I wonder what the reactions would have been if the perennial jester, Fenriz, had said it. I thought that people would respond favorably to an artist taking what they do seriously and saluting those who share their position, unless they felt they were under attack in their statement.
Edit: Why does it feel as though I'm under attack for not thinking that Averse Sefira is a bunch of faggots?
you can't be serious. You're completely off the mark; what AS are spouting is whiny elitist bullshit, and they should get over themselves...you could learn something from that as well.
Why don't you try to explain the problem with what they're saying beyond using substance-less phrases like "whiny elitist bullshit"? Or perhaps view that message within the broader context of the band's mode of operation?
Yeah, but some people do see music as a "mere form of entertainment." Who cares? There doesn't need to be a militant uprising of dedicated old school metal fans in order to purge metal of the "oh so bothersome scenesters who don't get it."
Why is it a problem for a metal musician to be concerned with issues pertaining to the form of music to which he has dedicated a part of his life? First of all, he's not calling for a crusade, he's merely acknowledging the seeming return of metal to the 'right' path. "Who cares?" Not you, but is it wrong for a musician involved within the scene to at least make an observation and comment on it? I didn't see anywhere in that statement that implied that these people should be mutilated and chastised and hanged. It's not like he wakes up in the middle of the night perplexed over the fact that Dethklok exists, but does that mean that nobody should find it annoying or stupid? Just because it means nothing to you doesn't mean that it's pointless for it to mean something to somebody else.