Black Metal.
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Thralldom
Winter of My Bliss
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Apologies if this has been posted already. The Burzum website has been updated with new promo pics from Umskiptar. Holy mother of god these are BAD. He looks absolutely ridiculous. Having said that though, I'm sure the record will be excellent.
I commented on the album earlier since I downloaded it, not realizing that it's not out for quite a while. I think if you enjoyed Fallen and appreciate Varg's attempts to keep things fresh, progress as a musician and mature as a person, you'll probably like this one. I only listened to it once but I thought it was great.
I'm not sure what to say about the pics...There's less posturing going on and there's more of a 'human' element to them. I suppose he can be seen as just a regular old guy now?
I'm not sure what to say about the pics...There's less posturing going on and there's more of a 'human' element to them. I suppose he can be seen as just a regular old guy now?
Only black metal I can really stand is Emperor, select Burzum, and Enslaved (yes, yes I know they're more prog than black metal... bite me).
The rest is just too raw for my tastes. Oh, and does Bathory count? Quorthon is/was the shit.
The rest is just too raw for my tastes. Oh, and does Bathory count? Quorthon is/was the shit.
Bitencourt29
Member
^ Bathory counts for sure.
You gotta dig deeper, not all Black Metal is raw. It's such a diverse subgenre.
You gotta dig deeper, not all Black Metal is raw. It's such a diverse subgenre.
divine_torture
leVel
mastermindjacquard
New Metal Member
NECROPHAGIST IS THE MOST TECHNICAL MUSICAL AMAZING TECHNICAL DEATH METAL BAND ON THE PLANET FUCK YES!
divine_torture
leVel
It never crossed your mind that they chose the direction because that is what they wanted to play? How much money do you honestly think a Swedish black metal band makes that would cause them to want to change their sound purely for the commercial success? Please, tell me, did the members of Watain tell you that's what they did? You know this for a fact? It's really implausible that they just wrote the music they wanted to write because that's what they wanted to write, and never considered any success with it?
God damn, you are an ignorant faggot and should refrain from posting.
Saparmurat_Niyazov
Member
Thralldom
Winter of My Bliss
divine_torture said:
You're mad. They definitely want to make the music that they are making, but they have been outspoken about wanting to be commercially successful in order to spread their music and their message, so I'm not wrong in that regard. There's no question that their last two albums are far more accessible and casual listener-friendly than the first two. You can like them if you want, but I don't and you won't convince me that I'm wrong by claiming that I don't know the artistic intentions of a band who made them clear already. I don't care how good you or anyone else thinks they are because I don't have to like them just because you do, but they do want to sell albums and their newer music is more accessible and also sold in stores like Target and Best Buy, both of which I've seen Sworn to the Dark for sale at within the last few years. Get over yourself and accept the possibility that a black metal band and their record label can have commercial aspirations.
Just about every black metal band and label has commercial aspirations, otherwise you wouldn't be able to obtain their music. It just wouldn't be available to the public in the first place. Why do you think bands sign to labels? :Smug:
And I've found Peste Noire CDs in big stores. They also changed their sound are more 'accessible' than a decade ago. I guess the rule applies to them to? Burzum is more accessible than when Varg started making music, and I'm currently drinking from a Burzum coffee mug. Varg must be following in Kiss' footseps with all the merchandise? I could go on and on... Watain really isn't any different so there's no use in trying to single them out to make a point that is by no means exclusive to them. With all the embellishing you're doing Thralldom, I wouldn't be surprised if you're the type of person who thinks Dimmu Borgir are a rich band.
And honestly, if you're a band that tours, why wouldn't you want to play in front of a huge audience that it there to specifically see you play? You're never going to get to be able to do this if no one cares about your band.
And I've found Peste Noire CDs in big stores. They also changed their sound are more 'accessible' than a decade ago. I guess the rule applies to them to? Burzum is more accessible than when Varg started making music, and I'm currently drinking from a Burzum coffee mug. Varg must be following in Kiss' footseps with all the merchandise? I could go on and on... Watain really isn't any different so there's no use in trying to single them out to make a point that is by no means exclusive to them. With all the embellishing you're doing Thralldom, I wouldn't be surprised if you're the type of person who thinks Dimmu Borgir are a rich band.
And honestly, if you're a band that tours, why wouldn't you want to play in front of a huge audience that it there to specifically see you play? You're never going to get to be able to do this if no one cares about your band.
unknown
fuck ftagn
listening to Lunar Aurora's Hoagascht right now. It's definitely different from Andacht...instead of ferocity, there are a lot of moments of grand, sweeping beauty and majesty. It's definitely a solid album and will more than likely end up on my best of 2012 list
Thralldom
Winter of My Bliss
Vossyrus said:
A lot of what you said doesn't have anything to do with this discussion at all. I'm not sure why you think that I equate selling music with being bad, as I enjoy many popular and successful bands. I don't support bands that I feel become vapid in the interest of commercial appeal, which is my opinion of Watain's newer music. I honestly don't care about new Burzum or Burzum merchandise at all and Varg will never achieve the level of marketability that Watain and their record label have strived for, nor do I believe that he is trying to do that.
However, Dimmu Borgir is one of the most commercially successful metal bands worldwide, so I'd qualify them as well-off financially considering their broad international appeal, level of commercial success, vast music and merchandise sales, media appearances and level if critical recognition. Their albums consistently sell well and are well-received by the public in many countries. I don't know how much money they make exactly, but they are definitely one of the highest selling metal bands in the world.
Oh, and Peste Noire sucks, so I'm not sure why you're even talking about them. They have nothing to do with this conversation and their artistic evolution is incomparable with Watain or Dimmu Borgir.
divine_torture
leVel
If Watain's soul purpose was commercial success, they would have never formed a god damn black metal band. Ugh...I don't like your line of thinking, but am currently pretty drunk so my arguing abilities are limited. Just know that I disagree. Ha.
Draehl
Lurker
Why does this shit matter? If the music is good listen to it. If a band sells out their sound for for more profits I'll miss the potential but more power to 'em. There's plenty of bands out there.
Krow
Garbage Connoisseur
PhlegethonVeins
Autopsy Obsessed
What makes it especially crazy is the fact that there had to be a bid war between at least one or two others to push it that high. Not only one, but numerous people were willing to throw that much cash at that.
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