GMD Poll: Candlemass's Discography Ranked

[Talos of Atmora]

Tales of Creation > Ancient Dreams

Needed to highlight a correct opinion after that post from Krow.

 

[Slayed Necros]

1. Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
2. Nightfall
3. Tales of Creation
4. Chapter VI
5. Ancient Dreams
6. Dactylis Glomerata

CiG alt confirmed.

Samarithan is probably my favourite song of theirs with Messiah on vocals. I feel like I need to check out some of the later stuff with Rob Lowe but it's unlikely that I'll get around to it.

 

[Krow]

Being butthurt about holy lyrics in doom metal is like being butthurt about unholy lyrics in black metal. Very low IQ stuff.

No I don’t like the lyrics, mostly because they’re fucking lame and whiny (I was nice to a bum 50 years before I died so I get to be an angel yay) and sandwiched between the best two songs on the album. (Not counting Marche Funebre)

 

[CiG]

So the reason you dislike arguably one of Candlemass' best songs are the lyrics?

 

[Krow]

I dislike it because it’s a whiny song stuck between two of my favorites and it kills the headbang At the Gallows End starts and Dark are The Veils of Death picks back up.

And yes, lyrics tend to be important to me in clean vocal’d metal. I don’t specifically care they’re Christian, I just dislike them.

 

[CiG]

...oof!

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I don't understand how the one song with a positive message can be called whiny. If you want to say "preachy" or "gay as fuck" or whatever then fine, but it's not even slightly whiny.

 

[CiG]

Gallows is whinier.

"With sad emotions, I sing this epitaph.
My swansong, my headstone, the farewell of my heart.
The hills of Tyburn, up where the gallows stand.
Only the vultures will come to see me hang."

= "boo hoo I'm a criminal being executed and nobody cares."

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Solitude is pretty much Elliot Rodgers-tier, edgy and whiny as fuck

 

[CiG]

"I'm sitting here alone in darkness, waiting to be free.
Lonely and forlorn, I am crying."

[shoots up the place]

"PAIN IS MY FATHER!"

 

[Oblivious Maximus]

Speaking of "Solitude", I remember someone on another forum saying they really wanted a Candlemass shirt with the Epicus skull on it but didn't buy it because it said "Please let me die in solitude" on the back and he didn't actually want to die in solitude or give off the impression that he did. Pussy.

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

Dying is solitude is preferable to spending a lifetime with someone who doesn't like Candlemass.

 

[Oblivious Maximus]

Not liking Candlemass is a character flaw.

 

[Bloopy]

1. Ancient Dreams
2. Nightfall
3. Tales of Creation
4. Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
5. Candlemass
6. From the 13th Sun
7. Psalms for the Dead
8. Death Magic Doom
9. King of the Grey Islands
10. Chapter VI
11. Dactylis Glomerata

Tales of Creation > Ancient Dreams

I practically get more feeling out of the opening notes of Mirror Mirror than the entirety of Tales of Creation. Probably the same thing I had with the production differences between the Solitude Aeturnus albums. To be fair, you have to have a very high EQ to understand...

 

[CiG]

"Mirror Mirror" is pure low EQ drivel.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

"Mirror Mirror" is pure low EQ drivel.

This, but unironically

 

[Omni]

It's no surprise that Krow is bad at figuring out which Candlemass songs are whiny since he had no idea what "A Sorcerers Pledge" was about during the mixtape a while ago. "Samarithan" is definitely their best song with Messiah.

1. Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
2. Nightfall
3. Tales of Creation
4. Chapter IV
5. Ancient Dreams
6. Dactylis Glomerata
7. Candlemass
8. Death Magic Doom
9. King of the Grey Islands
10. From the 13th Sun
11. Psalms for the Dead

Basically everything after the top 5 is by memory alone. I'm not going to relisten to all of that stuff when some of it is obviously not that good. I do want to hear their next album though.

 

[CiG]

Epicus Doomicus Metallicus (1986)
Nightfall (1987)
Tales of Creation (1989)
Chapter VI (1992)
Ancient Dreams (1988)

1. Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
2. Nightfall
3. Tales of Creation
4. Chapter VI
5. Ancient Dreams

1. Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
2. Nightfall
3. Tales of Creation
4. Chapter IV
5. Ancient Dreams

dun dun DUUUN

 

[Krow]

Also funny that I just downrated A Sorcerers Pledge that round because you so obviously had picked it.

 

[The Ozzman]

Candlemass does nothing for me (like most doom I've heard). I remember liking the debut the most of all the Candlemass albums I heard though.