I bought a new car (the "I wanna be like Gugs" thread)...

well ... hello there :lol:

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So I had a car accident 3 weeks ago, and my car is currently in the shop, in the mean time I have a rental car, and I hate it........... it's a Dodge Nitro 4X4
what a piece of shit. The way it drives is so rough, I drive 25mph and it feels like I'm driving 40 (because it's wobbly and road 'heavy' ) everything inside is not working right,
I HATE IT.



and hey, Pickup truck do rule off the road.
 
btw... you guys keep saying "Novelty" - the "status symbol" is BULLSHIT and mainly for people who don't care about driving, yet want a nice car.
Just because a car provides a driving experience that you find desirable, doesn't negate the fact that the BMW is a status symbol and that you are paying a premium for the logo.

And as far as quality, Dark One was right, their quality has been on the decline for quite some time.

Zod
 
And as far as quality, Dark One was right, their quality has been on the decline for quite some time.

i don't know where this data came from, they are not Japanese cars for sure, but you might be thinking about MB more so than BMW.
 
i don't know where this data came from, they are not Japanese cars for sure, but you might be thinking about MB more so than BMW.
When you pay $50K for a car, it should run as well as a $16K Honda.

A good friend of mine is a business analyst at Jaguar. He's in charge of the design of the dealer systems that handle maintenance. As part of his job, he needs to me in the know on how the competition is fairing (especially BMW and Mercedes). Plus, I've read things on the internet that agrees with industry insider information.

Zod
 
status symbol.... it's not only that... here in the states BMWs are status symbol, in Europe they are 'every day cars' - still better than American cars...
They *are* better cars... period. It's not just the logo, and you're not only paying for the "BMW" name to be on your key chain, when you drive one, you'll know.
 
uh..... that's not true....... where did you get that?

Consumer Reports - I follow their reliability reports extremely closely. Of course, in all brands there will be plenty of cars that run without needing much more than regularly scheduled maintenance, but from the general overall numbers, BMW's have poor reliability record. So much so that hardly any of their models are ever recommended by the magazine.
 
the biggest reason some more expensive cars end up on these reports not necesarily have to do with major issues. thing is at higher pricepoints and with enthusiast cars, buyers are more nitpicky (and they should be) with even minor things.

I know when I was hanging out with the MINI guys, small dash rattles would send some guys in a frenzy ... and all these things end up in CR databases.

it does not mean that the car leaves you stranded.
 
They *are* better cars... period. It's not just the logo, and you're not only paying for the "BMW" name to be on your key chain, when you drive one, you'll know.
I guess it all comes down to your definition of "better". For instance, my friends $60K 2004 330M didn't look better in the rear view mirror of my $25K 2004 Mustang Mach 1, covered it all that dust I kicked up. As a matter of fact, it looked down right slow. :loco:

Zod
 
leasing is weird ... i am willing to bet that the best deal you will get is on the Jetta and Lexus
 
leasing is weird ... i am willing to bet that the best deal you will get is on the Jetta and Lexus
That wouldn't surprise me at all. I have a strange feeling I'll end up in the Jetta. From what I've read, it seems like they're the best combination of price, features, driving fun and style. The SELs in black with the chrome grills look pretty sweet.

Zod
 
Not bad. However, there's a reverse snob appeal to such a car. When you're talking something in the "status symbol" arena, I don't really want the entry-level option. To me, such products scream, "I'm vain and vapid enough to want a status symbol... but I can't afford it." :loco:

Zod

uhmmm ... wait ... Lexus iS250? :loco:

my friend Leon, you met him, has a Jetta GLI, 07 ... sweet
 
I don't know... reviews can vary from magazine to magazine, country to country I guess...
my family has always been a BMW/ Alpha Romeo fanatics.. never had any problems with bmws - nothing.
And their service is one of the best there is in the market... I guess it all depends on personal experience and personal needs...
 
^ I like how you never mentioned not having anything wrong with Alfa's :D

As to the quality questions of BMW's ive never heard anything about a quality lapse and them being unreliable, far from it but everything car has its issues no matter what you paid or what badge it has on it.

I actually bought a new car yesterday... new as in it was actually made in 1976 but power to weight ratio ftw!! its a 3 door mk1 golf btw :loco: would you expect much more from me?? going to be restoring it and with hope working the absolute balls off the engine :D