Jon Nödtveidt/DISSECTION commits suicide

[no country for old wainds]

killing a bunch of joos and killing yourself are kind of not the same thing

i didnt say they were mr gray, and i am being kind of facetious here! but even so

 

[Demilich]

my point is that "it was his choice to make and he made it" is not a particularly good argument against condemning an act, especially when it's noted in exactly the same post that the act in question has a clear negative effect on a number of other people and thus wasn't even remotely *self-confined*

oh man, how ignorant can you get? seriously, if you want to continue trying to equate these two completely different circumstances, you're only going to lose the respect of myself and anyone else with half a brain. HE chose to end HIS life. the ramifications of this act are his responsibility, just like those of hitler. the difference is that he didn't impinge upon the ability of anyone else to live their lives.

 

[Dazed and Brutal]

he didn't impinge upon the ability of anyone else to live their lives.

He killed someone so in point wrong, he deserves to die.


And I'm sure he had people close to him.

 

[no country for old wainds]

so his death didn't impinge on the ability of those close to him to live their lives?

 

[Demilich]

it did, but he could have done any number of things while living - intentional or otherwise - that would have tangible, concrete effects on those involved in his life. in fact, anything anyone does impacts upon other people, whether they are aware of it or not. i don't see what you're getting at here. he didn't kill his family or friends, he simply made their lives harder for them (pain, grief, etc).

 

[no country for old wainds]

your original post coupled with those which have followed it suggests that you think an act can only be condemned if it results in the death of another, are you sure about this?!

 

[Jean-Pierre]

HAHAHA

 

[Hatebreeder]

He killed someone so in point wrong, he deserves to die.


And I'm sure he had people close to him.

I think it's ridiculous to try to justify the death of anyone. No matter who you were or what you did, we all deserve to die. That's the bottom line.

 

[Demilich]

your original post coupled with those which have followed it suggests that you think an act can only be condemned if it results in the death of another, are you sure about this?!

no, but i am sure that with respect to one's own life, the most important thing is what one wants. if any person other than me feels that hurting their family is more important than their wish to exist this world, that is there perogative, and they are free not to kill themselves. what i oppose is the condemnation of a person for making the choice to do with their life what they wish.

 

[no country for old wainds]

ok i dont care about this conversation and also fully support jons suicide

 

[Demilich]

spoken truly like somebody who knows they are out of their element.

thank you.

 

[Ender Rises]

Thread not locked due to ban.
Who cares if he sommitted suicide? He said he was done with music. Of what impotance is he since his band was over with?

 

[no country for old wainds]

spoken truly like somebody who knows they are out of their element.

thank you.

lol youre such a faggot

 

[Ender Rises]

Double-take moment.
You made this thread Erik. Why do you denounce it now?

 

[no country for old wainds]

because dim-witted mongoloids like yourself obliterated it with your presence alone

 

[Ender Rises]

I didn't talk about it until recently, agreeing with you about the unimportance of the thread. You need to stop insulting my posts, Erik, especially since thay have improved dramatically since now I actually know what the fuck I'm talking about. It's people like you, who talk about the posters rather than the posts, who ruin this forum. Ironic that you were once a mod.

 

[no country for old wainds]

did i mention that im not actually erik

 

[DE]

(Yes, there are good or warrented reasons to kill someone else.)

and what would they be

 

[Ender Rises]

did i mention that im not actually erik

I suspected this but decided to act under the impression that you were. Does that make you any more wrong? No. You are still the type of person that turns these forums into shit, no matter who you were in a past account.

 

[no country for old wainds]

no youre the kind of person who turns these forums into shit, im the kind of person who punishes the people who turn the forum to shit by in turn making the forum shit from their perspective.