Non-Conformity and Metal

[J.]

it's possible to drink without getting drunk.

 

[LordFireworm]

it's possible to drink without getting drunk.

It definitely is, though at a certain age (late teens/early 20s) the majority generally seems to prefer reaching that inebriated state rather than actually drinking a product of discernable quality.
As far as I'm concerned, getting drunk is one of the most selfish things someone can do.There's nothing more infuriating than trying to communicate with another human being when they can't even keep their fucking eyelids open, never mind saying anything back.

Dreamlord, in case you didn't know, the new Void of Silence album has AA from Primordial on vocals and will probably be worth your time.

 

[polarity]

What I always found striking about alot of metal, being rebelious in nature, always take issues with God. Ultimately, total rebelion is rebelion against a higher power and what higher power than that of a creator, but if most of these bands are atheists why do the seek rebellion against something they shouldn't even accknowlege. It almost indirectly supports the existence of some kind of higher power does it not?

No, it doesn't. The rebellion is against the concept of God, not God itself.

 

[anonymousnick2001]

God is great.

 

[speed]

Well said polarity.

Oh and thanks everyone for bearing with my constant personal reavulations of what ever is on my mind.

I blame Plato and the Jewish faith for both having the audacity to believe in one supreme higher power, and to spread this idea throughout the mediterranean world. Next I blame Constantine for converting to the christian faith, and creating a roman catholic church based on roman government. Finally I blame Muhammed for thinking his faith was somehow better than all the rest. I think I hit all the major god believing religions or ideas.

 

[MetalHeadMarc]

No, it doesn't. The rebellion is against the concept of God, not God itself.

but if what else can one against a trully almighty power accept deny its existence.

 

[J.]

No, it doesn't. The rebellion is against the concept of God, not God itself.

Depends what band you are speaking of.

 

[no country for old wainds]

It tends to be against this moralist construct that enslaves the human race and drives them to self-destruction.

 

[AsModEe]

Can't a person just listen to metal because he/she actually likes and enjoys the music?

this is just what I said lol....

 

[MetalHeadMarc]

It tends to be against this moralist construct that enslaves the human race and drives them to self-destruction.

what are you talking about, metal or belief in a God?

 

[crimsonfloyd]

It tends to be against this moralist construct that enslaves the human race and drives them to self-destruction.

Exactly! And this is what we should hope to rid ourselves of...

 

[no country for old wainds]

what are you talking about, metal or belief in a God?

I'm talking about why metal opposes Christianity.

 

[speed]

Ive been thinking in many was Metal symbolizes the traditions of classical Liberalism. Without freedom of speech, religion, etc, metal would never exist; in fact I think this the reason that the topics of satanism, violence, etc are so popular in metal- metal is in a way testing the limits of society and government, and just how much freedom one can have.


Im hoping Lord 667 replies, I know he believes in positivism, and seems unstained by the traditions of humanism, existentialism etc.- thus coming from a entirely opposite point of view than I.

 

[i acnt spell]

I don't know. I mean, yeah that's probably why I got into it when I was 15. I don't know how much of an issue it is anymore. Now it's just about the music. I've grown entirely fond of it.

 

[AsModEe]

I ask myself.... can we be in a metal band without having any cause or philosophy? I mean, doing music only for the sake of music? All these satanic and nihilistic stuff start to bother me... don't you guys see that there are other more interesting things in life??

 

[anonymousnick2001]

It's entirely possible. In fact, I recommend it.

 

[AsModEe]

we finally agree on something

 

[anonymousnick2001]

We've agreed on lots of things. I just happen to think Matt Barlow is painfully overrated.

 

[lord667]

I ask myself.... can we be in a metal band without having any cause or philosophy? I mean, doing music only for the sake of music? All these satanic and nihilistic stuff start to bother me... don't you guys see that there are other more interesting things in life??

Of course. Metal IMO is and always has been escapist first and political/philosophical second.

Though, if Satanism and Nihilism are what interest me, it should be self-evident that no, I can't see that there are more interesting things in life. If I'm not interested in them, how can I see that they're more interesting? </smartass>

 

[no country for old wainds]

Of course. Metal IMO is and always has been escapist first and political/philosophical second.

Though, if Satanism and Nihilism are what interest me, it should be self-evident that no, I can't see that there are more interesting things in life. If I'm not interested in them, how can I see that they're more interesting? </smartass>

AsModEe doesn't realise that people don't study nihilism as some kind of interesting hobby, it is their worldview, it is no less valid (in fact, it's far more valid) than Christianity.