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No, your a twat. You have nothing to back anything up, all you do is write the stupid thing that comes into you head trying to insult people.

Of course I'm going to insult you, shithead. Where the fuck does one get the idea that gays ought to be hung? You don't need to agree with their lifestyle, but since when was the fact that one is attracted to the same sex an adequate justification for treating them as less than human? Give me a fucking good reason and then maybe I'll take you seriously. Not only are you making yourself appear ignorant, you're also a morally bankrupt asshole.

They are my views, if you dont like it come up with a reasonable arguement.

Come up with a reasonable argument? Why is the burden of proof on me? You're the one who made the completely inflammatory, ridiculous, and morally counterintuitive claim so you're the one who's got some work to do. Oh and the abortion part: Way to beg one of the most difficult ethical questions of our time.
 
who the fuck would choose a lifestyle in which they are rejected and often discriminated against by society??

people don't have any control as to what they are attracted to, it's absurd to say otherwise

Dave you are a fucking idiot. What you are telling me is, since homosexual's are ridiculed by "society" they automatically don't choose be homosexual. Hmm, I'm going to call bullshit on this one. On the very same grounds that, murderers, rapists, drug addicts and all kinds of people who are ridiculed by society as well CHOOSE to do it. They know full well going in that if I do this, I'm going to be discriminated on because I'm going to be doing something that people SHOULDN'T, and is considered wrong. Now don't do the typical thing and turn this around and say I'm a homophobe. I have plenty of gay friends, and they all know how I stand on this issue. It's not right, it's not how people should be, but whatever they want to do then that's their problem. I just don't want to hear them complain about being ass fucked by society because they want to be different, no pun intended.

What is absurd, is the fact you have no idea what you are talking about, yet again.

Because people don't ... choose to be straight either? There is evidence of gay men's brains being more similar to the brains of women? Because they wouldn't choose to be something that would bring these HUGE amounts of public ridicule and hatred upon them.

I very much so choose to be straight. Everyday when I wake up I say "You know, I going to fuck a nice vagina today instead of suck some cock, because that's what I want to do." You lose.

You have a pretty good argument going, homosexual's brains are similar to a womans...ok I can buy that with some more legitimate proof. But the one thing that kills your point is the fact they aren't the SAME as a heterosexual woman's. Which means, they are still MEN. Once again showing that they do in fact CHOOSE who they want to have sexual relations with.
 
I very much so choose to be straight. Everyday when I wake up I say "You know, I going to fuck a nice vagina today instead of suck some cock, because that's what I want to do." You lose.


Do you really?? Every day??

I think most of us straight males kind of take that for granted.

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Dave you are a fucking idiot. What you are telling me is, since homosexual's are ridiculed by "society" they automatically don't choose be homosexual. Hmm, I'm going to call bullshit on this one. On the very same grounds that, murderers, rapists, drug addicts and all kinds of people who are ridiculed by society as well CHOOSE to do it. They know full well going in that if I do this, I'm going to be discriminated on because I'm going to be doing something that people SHOULDN'T, and is considered wrong. Now don't do the typical thing and turn this around and say I'm a homophobe. I have plenty of gay friends, and they all know how I stand on this issue. It's not right, it's not how people should be, but whatever they want to do then that's their problem. I just don't want to hear them complain about being ass fucked by society because they want to be different, no pun intended.

you really are a fucking idiot. You are telling me that you choose who you are attracted to??

If I show you a picture of a naked attractive woman, you will get a boner
If I show a 14 year old kid who just discovers that he is gay a picture of a naked attractive men, he will also get a boner

you didn't choose to be aroused by the picture of the woman, just like the gay kid doesn't choose to be aroused by the picture of the man. Let me guess you are going to tell me that you somehow forced your penis to erect when you saw the picture?? :rolleyes:

I very much so choose to be straight. Everyday when I wake up I say "You know, I going to fuck a nice vagina today instead of suck some cock, because that's what I want to do." You lose.

You have a pretty good argument going, homosexual's brains are similar to a womans...ok I can buy that with some more legitimate proof. But the one thing that kills your point is the fact they aren't the SAME as a heterosexual woman's. Which means, they are still MEN. Once again showing that they do in fact CHOOSE who they want to have sexual relations with.

you do choose who you have sexual relations with, but you do not have the choice who you are attracted to

how many times do we hear about gays that wish they could be straight?? or those that loathe themselves for 10 year until they accept themselves?? if it was a simple question of choice, we would never hear about such stories
 
http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/boardwalk/7151/biobasis.html

Upon comparison between sexual orientation and hypothalamus size, he found that, on average, INAH 3 was two to three times smaller in homosexual men; this suggested “that gay and straight men may differ in the central neuronal mechanisms that regulate sexual behavior. ... It is very likely that there are fewer neurons in INAH 3 of gay men (and women) than in straight men. To put an absurdly facile spin on it, gay men simply don’t have the brain cells to be attracted to women” (120).

Although genetics may not be the sole reason individuals are homosexuals, recent research has shown that sexual orientation certainly has biological links. Homosexuality has nothing to do with disturbed mentalities. Homosexuality has to do with brain anatomy and genetics. Homosexuals might even be gay before they are born. But even more simply, as Angelican Archbishop Benjamin Tutu of South Africa wrote, “if this sexual orientation were indeed a matter of personal choice, the homosexual persons must be the craziest coots around to choose a way of life that exposes them to so much hostility, discrimination, loss, and suffering.” Homosexuality is not a choice. It’s a way of life.
 
I very much so choose to be straight. Everyday when I wake up I say "You know, I going to fuck a nice vagina today instead of suck some cock, because that's what I want to do." You lose.

You have a pretty good argument going, homosexual's brains are similar to a womans...ok I can buy that with some more legitimate proof. But the one thing that kills your point is the fact they aren't the SAME as a heterosexual woman's. Which means, they are still MEN. Once again showing that they do in fact CHOOSE who they want to have sexual relations with.

I doubt it.

http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/ap_050510_pheremones.html
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/discoveries/2006-05-08-lesbian-brain-study_x.htm
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002340883_gayscience19m.html
 
Okay. Here is a pretty shitty analogy.

I like science fiction books. However I don't CHOOSE to like them, I just DO like them. I however CAN choose to READ sci-fi books.
 
The verdict is still out about that in the scientific community as far as I'm aware, though it's definitely notable that studies have shown that homosexuals tend to have a hypothalamus approximately half the size of that of a heterosexual.

Liberals > Conservatives, and yes, conservatives (see: the Bible belt and the south and mid west in general) do tend to be more uneducated than liberals, the main exception being the poor urban population generally siding with liberals. However, on ideological grounds, there is a correlation between education level and liberal ideology. Also, don't fucking associate political correctness directly with liberalism because both ideologies are equally victims.

Again, Necuratul illustrates that he's one of the smartest people here. Though I usually (but not always) vote Republican, I wouldn't consider myself conservative; and I certainly agree with this.

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Dave you are a fucking idiot. What you are telling me is, since homosexual's are ridiculed by "society" they automatically don't choose be homosexual. Hmm, I'm going to call bullshit on this one. On the very same grounds that, murderers, rapists, drug addicts and all kinds of people who are ridiculed by society as well CHOOSE to do it. They know full well going in that if I do this, I'm going to be discriminated on because I'm going to be doing something that people SHOULDN'T, and is considered wrong. Now don't do the typical thing and turn this around and say I'm a homophobe. I have plenty of gay friends, and they all know how I stand on this issue. It's not right, it's not how people should be, but whatever they want to do then that's their problem. I just don't want to hear them complain about being ass fucked by society because they want to be different, no pun intended.

What is absurd, is the fact you have no idea what you are talking about, yet again.

I very much so choose to be straight. Everyday when I wake up I say "You know, I going to fuck a nice vagina today instead of suck some cock, because that's what I want to do." You lose.

You have a pretty good argument going, homosexual's brains are similar to a womans...ok I can buy that with some more legitimate proof. But the one thing that kills your point is the fact they aren't the SAME as a heterosexual woman's. Which means, they are still MEN. Once again showing that they do in fact CHOOSE who they want to have sexual relations with.

...And Amartantus illustrates that the opposite is true about himself.
 
Amarantus you have got to be one of the most silly, ignorant people I have ever exchanged words with. Doesn't it get tiring hating everything different from yourself?
 
I also don't think people become gay of their own choosing. There are hormonal/psychological reasons that account for this.
From what I've read some people even feel threatened and are left traumatized when they discover the "abnormality" of their sexual orientation.
 
I used to live with a gay guy... well he lived with us. about 8 of us in the house.
He had the WORST selfesteem I have ever seen and liked one of my friends.
One time he was sitting at the bottom of the stairs drunk and crying because my friend didnt like him (well duh, he isnt gay) so he has this hawaiian shirt on and puked inside of it so that he wouldnt get puke on the carpet. Oh man it was so fucking funny

good story huh?
 
I used to live with a gay guy... well he lived with us. about 8 of us in the house.
He had the WORST selfesteem I have ever seen and liked one of my friends.
One time he was sitting at the bottom of the stairs drunk and crying because my friend didnt like him (well duh, he isnt gay) so he has this hawaiian shirt on and puked inside of it so that he wouldnt get puke on the carpet. Oh man it was so fucking funny

good story huh?

:lol: :lol:

of wait he was attracted to one of the guys and was crying because the guy didn't like him as well?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Bottom Line is, in this day and age, if you have a problem with homosexuality or are made uncomfortable by gays, then it is you that has the problem. There is no reason to care so much about who other people are sleeping with. Do you care who Joe down the street is sleeping with? Not if it's a woman. Why should it be any different if he is gay. How does who you sleep with effect(affect?)any other aspect of your life. The fact that people think it is right to legislate things like same sex marriage and deny gay couples adoptions right makes me sick.
 
Why is it then that in certain parts of the world, there is absolutely no trace of homosexuality, and people are basically ignorant of the very existance of this concept. Does the ignorance actually eventually makes them straight or do they just never come out of their closets?
 
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