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[Thoth-Amon]

If you're going to a community college that has associations with a major university (the university you intend to transfer to) then you might not have too much of a problem, but like MasterOLightning said, you might run into a lot of brick walls going that route. Also, of course, the likelihood that you're receiving the same calibre of education during those first two years is suspect at best, though of course this is not a universal circumstance.

Depends upon the teachers also... I had some high calibre classes in JC and some very low calibre ones at the university and vice versa.

 

[ThisIsACoolName]

This college thing is dumb. Going to a university is so blatantly better than going to a community college. This should not be a matter of debate. I'm going to the journalism school at Northwestern. That looks approximately one billion times better on a resume than having a journalism degree from community college. Northwestern is a top tier university, but even middling universities are much better than CC. It's also quite apparent that for most people, going to a top university results in making a lot of money in life. That's why these schools get donations in the hundreds of millions every year. It's not that you can't succeed out of CC, but the vast majority of people who go there don't succeed, unless you consider making $20K a year to be good.

Being poor isn't a very good excuse for not going to a university. Yeah, it's expensive, but if you work hard, there are plenty of opportunities for financial aid. Northwestern costs something like $40,000 a year, but I'll be finishing school debt free because I got about $150,000 in scholarships. My parents make less than $40,000 a year, so I qualified for a lot of need based scholarships. I'm not the typical case, but even if I had to take out some loans it would have been well worth it.

Hey, you're an asshole.

People don't go to CC and then do nothing. They transfer into bigger schools. Writing off financial reasons for going to CC is also pretty good damn infuriating. Hey, I'm glad you're Daddy was able to pay for you to go to a four-year school, but guess what? Not everyone has the option, you fucking twit.

I've heard from Professors who taught at four year schools, people who went to CC and transferred, etc. who say that CC student work harder than most four-year school students. Most of us are people who can't afford to send ourselves to better schools, and if you somehow think you're better because you can, then fuck you.

And where the fuck do you get the idea that the "vast majority" of people who start out at CC don't succeed in life? Seriously, where the fuck do you get off saying something like that?

I've read some pretty stupid shit on here, but this is the only time I've ever actually been insulted by a post.

 

[Hell Awaits Us All]

did you miss the part where he said his parents make less than 40,000 a year??

 

[skeptik]

He said he got $150,000 in scholarships you asshole, not that his parents paid his way, way to fucking read.

Also, yes, a far greater percentage of CC students do not succeed in life, because most people that go to community college are fucking losers, burnouts, dropouts, people who couldn't get into a university, and other people of that sort, so obviously a lot of them are not going to be very successful later on in life. That's not saying that there aren't people who are doing what you're doing, because obviously there are, but in reality, you're the minority as far as CC students go.

 

[Thoth-Amon]

He said he got $150,000 in scholarships you asshole, not that his parents paid his way, way to fucking read.

Also, yes, a far greater percentage of CC students do not succeed in life, because most people that go to community college are fucking losers, burnouts, dropouts, people who couldn't get into a university, and other people of that sort, so obviously a lot of them are not going to be very successful later on in life. That's not saying that there aren't people who are doing what you're doing, because obviously there are, but in reality, you're the minority as far as CC students go.

Actually most of the people I've met at JC are there for financial reasons... and yes there were plenty of losers and dropouts... but I found in my own experience at least that money was the main reason they were at a JC and not a university, not that they were losers.

 

[ThisIsACoolName]

did you miss the part where he said his parents make less than 40,000 a year??

Apparently...

Also, yes, a far greater percentage of CC students do not succeed in life, because most people that go to community college are fucking losers, burnouts, dropouts, people who couldn't get into a university, and other people of that sort, so obviously a lot of them are not going to be very successful later on in life. That's not saying that there aren't people who are doing what you're doing, because obviously there are, but in reality, you're the minority as far as CC students go.

And those are the people who don't finish. Honestly, most of the people who go to my school are there other reasons. Immigrants, older people, people who were at four-year schools and decided to switch majors, etc. Yeah, there are a lot of shit heads, but I would not consider them the majority.

My post earlier was fueled mostly by irritation, to be honest. Whenever I see someone from HS and I tell them "Yeah, I'm at Bucks" I get that fucking snotty look. Oh, BCCC? Well, I go to West Chester because I am apparently a lot smarter than you are. Meanwhile I'm getting up at six every day and they're waking up in puddles of their own vomit. I just hate having to constanly justify why I go to school there.

And, yeah, I missed the part about his finacial situation.

 

[skeptik]

Actually most of the people I've met at JC are there for financial reasons... and yes there were plenty of losers and dropouts... but I found in my own experience at least that money was the main reason they were at a JC and not a university, not that they were losers.

I'm sure it depends on the school and the region as well. Most of the people at the CC in my area are worthless pieces of shit.

 

[unknown]

sweet jesus I can't believe I just read the last five or six pages

(@ Dave, Nec and pretty much anyone in college)

What are your majors?

English Education with a focus on Rhetoric and Composition.


Also...for those of you with a high GPA, you should try taking some really challenging courses that even though they may affect your precious little GPA, you might get something more out of those courses. High school teaches you to bullshit your way through work. I know this because I'm an English major, and with English (and History to an extent), you could go without reading the text or anything and still be able to produce a fairly coherent and logical argument for any question posed to you. Take bullshit proof classes. that's where your money is. if you're not challenging your brain...if you're not going to class and thinking, "Shit this stuff is tough"...if you know without a doubt that you'll at least get a C in the class, you're not challenging yourself.


or not whatever I don't care.

 

[Thoth-Amon]

I'm sure it depends on the school and the region as well. Most of the people at the CC in my area are worthless pieces of shit.

Depends on the major also...

 

[Thoth-Amon]

sweet jesus I can't believe I just read the last five or six pages




English Education with a focus on Rhetoric and Composition.


Also...for those of you with a high GPA, you should try taking some really challenging courses that even though they may affect your precious little GPA, you might get something more out of those courses. High school teaches you to bullshit your way through work. I know this because I'm an English major, and with English (and History to an extent), you could go without reading the text or anything and still be able to produce a fairly coherent and logical argument for any question posed to you. Take bullshit proof classes. that's where your money is. if you're not challenging your brain...if you're not going to class and thinking, "Shit this stuff is tough"...if you know without a doubt that you'll at least get a C in the class, you're not challenging yourself.


or not whatever I don't care.

Yes like some of the classes I'm taking now...

 

[skeptik]

I don't even pay attention to the course number, I just pick the classes that interest me. A lot of those turned out to be 300 level courses so far though, and I still have two more years.

 

[unknown]

the class levels I'm taking right now range from 100 - 400. woo. Strangely, the 400 level classes are my easiest this semester.



can't wait for grad school :zombie:

 

[MasterOLightning]

Hey, you're an asshole.

People don't go to CC and then do nothing. They transfer into bigger schools. Writing off financial reasons for going to CC is also pretty good damn infuriating. Hey, I'm glad you're Daddy was able to pay for you to go to a four-year school, but guess what? Not everyone has the option, you fucking twit.

I've heard from Professors who taught at four year schools, people who went to CC and transferred, etc. who say that CC student work harder than most four-year school students. Most of us are people who can't afford to send ourselves to better schools, and if you somehow think you're better because you can, then fuck you.

And where the fuck do you get the idea that the "vast majority" of people who start out at CC don't succeed in life? Seriously, where the fuck do you get off saying something like that?

I've read some pretty stupid shit on here, but this is the only time I've ever actually been insulted by a post.

You clearly didn't read my post very carefully. There's nothing arrogant about what I said. Maybe you live in a rural area or something and the types of people who go to CC are different, but Necuratul's description of the student base is accurate in my experience. I would only add that a high percentage of CC students have English as a second language, at least in Chicago. These are the types that tend to work hard and move on to other schools. The rest are overwhelmingly burnouts or idiots.

Also, no matter how poor you are, you should be able to swing going to a university. In fact, the poorer you are, the more likely it is you'll apply for need-based grants and scholarships. Schools tend to have good financial aid programs. It tends to be middle class people who complain about college costs the most, because they are just outside of the range that qualifies for most financial aid. Working and lower class people unfortunately don't know the resources that are available to them. It's too bad, because college is more doable than some people imagine.

 

[ThisIsACoolName]

Furthermore, for anyone who says that CC students don't succeed, you can tell that to my school's most famous alum: Terri Schiavo.

 

[skeptik]

 

[ThisIsACoolName]

The girl so nice, she expired twice.

 

[MasterOLightning]

sweet jesus I can't believe I just read the last five or six pages




English Education with a focus on Rhetoric and Composition.


Also...for those of you with a high GPA, you should try taking some really challenging courses that even though they may affect your precious little GPA, you might get something more out of those courses. High school teaches you to bullshit your way through work. I know this because I'm an English major, and with English (and History to an extent), you could go without reading the text or anything and still be able to produce a fairly coherent and logical argument for any question posed to you. Take bullshit proof classes. that's where your money is. if you're not challenging your brain...if you're not going to class and thinking, "Shit this stuff is tough"...if you know without a doubt that you'll at least get a C in the class, you're not challenging yourself.


or not whatever I don't care.

That's a good approach. The thing about the really challenging, specialized classes is that the class size is often around 10. Everybody gets to be buddy-buddy with the professor, and as long as you show good effort you still pull a B or better. Odds are, if it's really tough for you, then the other students aren't faring too much better. If the subject matter is really hard then curving could push you into the A or A- range.

I can't wait to take intro to music and drumset lessons in the spring. Then I should be able to take a composition class next year. That should be sufficiently challenging considering I have a minimal knowledge of piano and guitar.

 

[skeptik]

Yeah, the smaller class size for the upper level courses are nice, though admittedly I don't mind relaxing in the back of a lecture hall as well.

 

[unknown]

mmm fun times. My creative writing fiction class varies in size on a class to class basis. there's 26 people in the class (which is huge for a workshop class), but on a regular basis there's only about 15 of us. I think it's good for the students to have a good relationship with the professor, but not necessarily buddy buddy...that may pour over and affect the learning environment. but usually whenever the small class is on good terms with the prof, he/she will be more flexible with the curriculum/grading/etc...

 

[ThisIsACoolName]

Smaller classes are great, even with acting / performance classes. The fewer people, the more time every has to play, it's nice. There are a few people in my improv class who I'd love to get rid of. Both to reduce the class size and because people who suck bring everyone else down (sounds shitty but it's true).