Old, but for those who don't know...

[Mort Divine]

Karl Marx style socialist has a name, and it's called Communism, and is not the same fucking thing as policies implemented in the US, such as the recent bailout and subsequent nationalizing of the banking industry, you fucking denizen of the dumb.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

The negative connotation that goes with the label of "socialism" usually deals with taking from those who produce and giving to those who do not.
Highways and interstates really don't fall under that idea. If anything it would be the opposite, since the ones reaping the main benefit are those rich enough to afford mobilized transportation. (You could go into indirect benefit by lowering merchandise transport costs etc but I won't). Not to mention highway maintenance is mainly funded through gas taxes , therefore the users are supporting service. not really a socialistic concept.

Where would I be without public education? Same place I am now (IE: didn't get a public education). Public education in America is shit anyway, I wouldn't use it in an arguement for "socialism".

Not too many libraries on a federal level that I know of.

You are really pushing the levels of what fucking stupidity means.

 

[Matt]

The US is at least part socialist now with that bailout shit.

 

[cookiecutter]

The United States along with practically every other country has had a mixed economy for a long time.

 

[BlackMetalWhiteGuy]

The implied threat in the Channel 4 report is that prosecutors and sheriffs across Missouri will enforce "Missouri ethics laws" and conduct criminal investigations of "anyone who lies or runs a misleading television ad" against Barack Obama. Although the report did not directly state that intent, that implied message was clearly conveyed.

That message isn't implied at all. Obviously, running a misleading political ad is unethical and their should be enforcement against it, but there seems to be no favoritism expressed toward Obama other than what the author is trying to imply. This article is trying to imply that it's biased in Obama's favor, by adding his name to the end of this sentence

prosecutors and sheriffs across Missouri will enforce "Missouri ethics laws" and conduct criminal investigations of "anyone who lies or runs a misleading television ad" against Barack Obama.

Barack Obama isn't even relevant to this, because it's a law that applies equally to both sides. If I say prosecutors and sheriffs across Missouri will enforce "Missouri ethics laws" and conduct criminal investigations of "anyone who lies or runs a misleading television ad" against John McCain then that is also true, all I'm doing is trying to bias the reading in the other direction.

Sorry about the rant, but this really grinds my nerves. I wish I could just read an unbiased report from an objective source.

 

[Dak]

You are really pushing the levels of what fucking stupidity means.

Let me guess, you have a public education and therefore are the pinnacle of intelligence at the ripe age of 19?

 

[skeptik]

Even Adam Smith recognized the necessity of having some socialist-oriented programs to compensate for the flaws of the capitalist system.

 

[MasterOLightning]

It speaks very poorly of our public education that so few people know the difference between a social democracy and socialism (communism). Not coincidently, these people tend to vote republican.

 

[The Ozzman]

I'm used to the term 'mixed economy' and not so much 'social democracy'

 

[Dak]

It speaks very poorly of our public education that so few people know the difference between a social democracy and socialism (communism). Not coincidently, these people tend to vote republican.

Incidently, based off of the people I have known in life, the trend seams to be that publicly educated people vote democrat and the privately educated vote republican........now why would that be?

Not that it matters too much, since regardless of who is in office, the bureaucracy continues to bloat.

 

[Matt]

Incidently, based off of the people I have known in life, the trend seams to be that publicly educated people vote democrat and the privately educated vote republican........now why would that be?

Apparently the public school system is far superior

 

[The Ozzman]

Apparently the public school system is far superior

 

[Dak]

Apparently neither one is that great since both of the results suck.....however I was going to say something about those trained on the public dole will be in more likely to be in favor of getting other things for free too, while those who had their educations paid for in a legit fashion would be in favor of [keeping their money].

It's kind of pointless though since as I said before, republicans and democrats are the flip-sides of the same coin. Different rhetoric, equally piss-poor results.

 

[Heat Mizer]

This is a great thread.

OBAMA FOR PREZ...

 

[skeptik]

Incidently, based off of the people I have known in life, the trend seams to be that publicly educated people vote democrat and the privately educated vote republican........now why would that be?

Not that it matters too much, since regardless of who is in office, the bureaucracy continues to bloat.

The more educated a person is, the more likely they are to vote liberally, based on data.

 

[The Ozzman]

You got some data to back that up?

 

[Dak]

Even if provided data backed that statement up, "educated" is way too broad of a term. Educated in what? An education on one subject does not necessarily lend intelligence to another.

Also incidently, the one guy I know with a doctorate is a hardcore Reagan-fanboy republican.....

 

[BlackMetalWhiteGuy]

I don't have data that correlate education with voting patterns, but I shared an article in my facebook profile a while ago that correlated education with liberalism. Generally, someone with a higher IQ tends to be less religious and less conservative, but they still end up behaving more appropriately by conservative standards, ie. later sexual debut and fewer life time sexual partners.

 

[The Ozzman]

I don't have data that correlate education with voting patterns, but I shared an article in my facebook profile a while ago that correlated education with liberalism. Generally, someone with a higher IQ tends to be less religious and less conservative, but they still end up behaving more appropriately by conservative standards, ie. later sexual debut and fewer life time sexual partners.

Could you post that here?

 

[Dak]

There is a difference between innate intelligence and how much information you have accumulated. The whole "dumb smart person" bit etc.

I've seen statistics based off the reqs you listed and would concur, a more intelligent person would behave less liberally, at least when it came to sex if nothing else.