Opeth and religion
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MegaMoose said:
Just because there is no way to 100% conclusively disprove the existance of something does not mean an individual can not choose to believe that something does not exist.
I am definitely postively 100% sure there is no magical invisible pink elephant sitting in my room. But I can't really prove that either.
FRUGiHOYi
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He could have fooled himself into believing that 100%, but it doesn't mean he's right.MegaMoose said:
edit: CAIRATH beat me to it.
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Too be honest if your not looking at something theres no proof that its actually there. But its too logical to think like that.....Some people think it some people dont. Can we close the thread now and talk about beer, metal and women now.
How can something be too logical?
You mean "it is not illogical enough to think like that". Religion is one of the last bastions where reason and logic still have no meaning whatsoever, and for most people it's even the less the better.
It's funny how people so blindly accept completely ridiculous things when it comes to their religious beliefs when outside of that they would never do that. If you pray to an invisible man in the sky every day and believe that when you die you go to a magical place where everyone is happy and lives for all eternity then you're considered a good Christian but if you think that Cthulhu lives in your kitchen sink and you bring him offerings by pooring tomato juice down the drain every night before you go to bed then people think you are insane.
You mean "it is not illogical enough to think like that". Religion is one of the last bastions where reason and logic still have no meaning whatsoever, and for most people it's even the less the better.
It's funny how people so blindly accept completely ridiculous things when it comes to their religious beliefs when outside of that they would never do that. If you pray to an invisible man in the sky every day and believe that when you die you go to a magical place where everyone is happy and lives for all eternity then you're considered a good Christian but if you think that Cthulhu lives in your kitchen sink and you bring him offerings by pooring tomato juice down the drain every night before you go to bed then people think you are insane.
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It is far too lateral (systematic) to think that until you see something its not there. Religion could possibly be the most flawless design ever. there is no way of proving that there is or isnt 'God'
You mean the most flawed design. If the most flawless design is a string of stories that are completely incoherent, illogical and can never be proven or disproven then apparently coming up with a flawless design is not very hard.
Religion would be the most flawless design if the existance of God was so obvious that no one could ever deny it. Like if he was some big dude living on top of a volcano somewhere and going "'sup dudes, I'm God. Bring me some virgins. Stat!". Oh and I guess it would help if he shot lightning beams at people. Fear always helps people believe (religion is mostly driven by fear to begin with).
Religion would be the most flawless design if the existance of God was so obvious that no one could ever deny it. Like if he was some big dude living on top of a volcano somewhere and going "'sup dudes, I'm God. Bring me some virgins. Stat!". Oh and I guess it would help if he shot lightning beams at people. Fear always helps people believe (religion is mostly driven by fear to begin with).
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affinityband said:
I think you are the messiah as you predicted this would turn into one of dem threads...
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CAIRATH said:
Thats the reason its flawless dont you see that it is so easy to convert to something that could actually give someone hope whether its true or not. Because we have Hope we sometimes ignore the 'possible' facts. Im not religious in anyway by the way.
Now can we please talk about Beer and metal and be shovenistic pigs.
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vampyrouss said:I think you are the messiah as you predicted this would turn into one of dem threads...
Well boys, i guess its time to bow down to the one who knows best.
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Larsson
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Yes you can just feel your way around the room. The real problem is proving its pink.CAIRATH said:
So I guess your right anyway. But can somehing invisible really be pink.
(This reply is not meant to be taken seriously)
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Kenneth R.
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CAIRATH said:
Again, no, you aren't. You only say you aren't sure because that idea seems so rediculous, but there is no way of being completely 100% sure about anything ever.
What do you people mean that religion is one of the only things where logic doesn't have any meaning? Have you heard of this thing called "emotion"? The basic concept that makes us human has very little logic in it. People constantly do illogical things because of emotion. And beer as well. But that's another story.
And if the concept of religion is so rediculous, why has it existed in practically every culture since the beginning of time, including cultures that never came into contact with one another? And don't tell me "OMG PPL HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ST00PID LOLZ!!!!F"
No person can prove the existence of God, but God can prove his existence to you. This probably sounds rediculous to a lot of you, but most people who actually practice their religion know God exists because they've actually felt Him. They can't prove this to anybody else, but they know it themselves.
In the end, you have the right to be an atheist, or worship hamsters, or cover yourself in shaving cream because of religious beliefs. But you really can't be 100% sure that there is no God.
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