Opeth on Roadrunner?

Mr Samsara said:
Please move along...nothing to see here...

:devil:

Roger.




I only have one cd from the RR label and that is Cantrell's Degredation Trip Vol 1 & 2. I haven't heard many of the other bands. Except for Nickelback. That song they have where it sounds like two songs at the same time is awesome. I have the mp3. It's called Nickelbacksucks. I love self deprecating humor. Crazy Canadians.
 
AlexGuinness said:
One other thing I cannot understand... what is the obsession with Relapse with so many of the US posters? Why would they be a good choice, I cannot see a reason why from my place here in the UK.

Do you have Mastodon - Leviathan? It is the single best job of packaging and artwork I've ever seen. Beautiful. The band has also gotten a ton of exposure, and it seems like they get a lot of support. A band like Nile isn't THAT amazing, but they've become a major force under Relapse. I can find a good number of Relapse cds in mainstream music stores. The cds almost always have some nice extra, (behind the scenes, video clip, audio dvd, bonus disc, etc.) The bands on the label are of good quality, and their best bands get their best promotion, unlike RR where shit bands get the biggest push. I think they had to have tried to get Opeth, and Opeth would fit in pretty well. America is probably the biggest market for metal, and an American label would be best, at least in terms of sales.
 
I think Relapse is held in high regard because of the depth, variety, edginess, and quality of their artist roster (Mastodon, Necrophagist, DEP, Nile, Suffocation, etc.) They seem to have an eye for bands that explore the boundaries of metal as well as an appreciation for the classic stuff.

Listening to the albums, you just don't hear what would be "creative direction" from a suit.
 
^what both of them said. to me relapse seems to be a textbook example of how to run a metal label right; they have a diverse and interesting roster and their packaging and extras are superb and abundant, respectively. granted, if opeth signed with them they'd be one of, if not the, biggest band on the label...a guy can still hope though.
 
Well... for one, it's not confirmed yet that Opeth signed RR, if it's just a false rumor I'd like to know what Akerfeldt thinks of this rumor.
If it's true, I'd like to know why they did such an thing.

I would also like to know how the band thinks of their core fanbase (this forum) reacting like they did. Even tough RR is not the most preferable lable IMO, we as the fans should support our beloved band.
It's their choice, not ours. It's like marriage, you might not like your husband (or wifes) decision to quit job, but you should love him/her unconditionaly annyway.
I have ful confidence in Opeth, I only hope RR wouldn't influence them.

P.s. if they did sign to RR, that means a lot of merchandising right? I could use a few Opeth flags and an Opeth bedspread :Smug:
 
MasterOLightning said:
Do you have Mastodon - Leviathan? It is the single best job of packaging and artwork I've ever seen. Beautiful. The band has also gotten a ton of exposure, and it seems like they get a lot of support. A band like Nile isn't THAT amazing, but they've become a major force under Relapse. I can find a good number of Relapse cds in mainstream music stores. The cds almost always have some nice extra, (behind the scenes, video clip, audio dvd, bonus disc, etc.) The bands on the label are of good quality, and their best bands get their best promotion, unlike RR where shit bands get the biggest push. I think they had to have tried to get Opeth, and Opeth would fit in pretty well. America is probably the biggest market for metal, and an American label would be best, at least in terms of sales.

I am familiar with these bands, they are not that huge over here apart from with some of the slightly more eperimental fans of music that consume the tabloid music press in this country. From what I can tell, they are lumped in with the "something that appeals to the Americans" tag. I think this is an important distinction to make as well... Something for the trendy kids to listen to that deludes them that they are not just another trendy kid. Certainly as a Rock and Metal DJ in over 18 venues in this country, I rarely get asked for anything from the Relapse rosta, although I make a point of opening with Karl Sanders quite regularly...

I agree that the US has the biggest market, seemingly followed by Japan and Germany from what I can tell (although this is judged more in terms of perceived fanaticism than in unit shifting, I don't have the information to be able to judge on that level). Tastes across the Atlantic DO differ from over here in Europe. I really do not want to get into a geographical slanging match here, but I guess someone will try.

One thing that will probably be controversial to many on this forum, but not the the non-Americans is that... it should be remembered that America is not the be all and end all of this! The world does exist beyond your coast lines. Although the US market is large and important, it is not to the exclusion of considering others. It is also a market that is very much media and PR driven which can be a good thing and bad. To my mind, that depends on artistic integrity and I have no reason to quesion Opeth's.

Opeth are a band that are basically European (I know, Scandinavian or not depending on which political definitions you use) and have been marketed over here for quite some time. Lee B originally signed them to his English label, Hammy signed them to his English label and if I understand correctly, MFN UK signed them here as well. When it was decided that it was time for America to be marketed, I believe that this was done using licensing to Koch (? forgive my ignorance, I am not sure which ones have been released over there on which label, all my releases are original UK ones). I am also not sure when the US releases started happening, but I gather it was a few years down the line. Sometimes it does take a while for another culture to catch up on things that are successful on another continent.

Maybe this US release schedule was coincidental with the US bands taking more influence from the Swedish scene, I do not know. Certainly, the time is right to push the US market as well, but note AS WELL as the other existing markets that have been hungry for Opeth for many, many years now.

So, I guess an American label would be best for American consumers, but that is only part of the equation. Only a small part as far as I can see. Whichever label they sign with is either going to be a multi-national or one that they get to choose specific licensing deals for other territories. That to me seems a more plausible choice.

As far as affecting touring goes, it is not down to the label. Even so, if Opeth did end up touring with Cradle of Filth again, then I am still going to go. If I could have them play with The Blood Divine again then I would be really happy, but that is just not going to happen.

I have nothing against Relapse, but I do not think that Opeth would fit any better on that label than any other. I personally hope that Century Media get them. Personal choice though.
 
^Also, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Alchemist, Dying Fetus, Suffocation, Regurgitate, Incantation, Carnal Forge, Napalm Death, Gorerotted, Amorphis, God Macabre, Incantation, Nasum ...among others. :headbang:


<crimson> said:
Relapse = Alchemist, Dillinger Escape Plan, The End, Mastodon, Nile (and Deceased)
= :)
 
Luz said:
^Also, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Alchemist, Dying Fetus, Suffocation, Regurgitate, Incantation, Carnal Forge, Napalm Death, Gorerotted, Amorphis, God Macabre, Incantation, Nasum ...among others. :headbang:

:lol: i said alchemist in my post.
also, i dont like agoraphobic nosebleed, i only heard 1 suffocation album once, a few napalm death songs, and i never heard the other bands music.