The Official Good Television Thread

I guess I've completely removed the memory of Marty getting back with his family , but that still feels like such a minor part of the show to really kill it for you. Maybe it was best to end at the hospital when Cohle gets healthy and he's talking on the curb. Even though it's significantly more upbeat and optimistic than at any other point in the season..

To derail, all the reasons you cite for TD s1 is I think applicable even moreso for The Wire. And it's actually why I dislike it. Cops get away with anything and they are (mostly) in it for the right things and are doing the right things. Which it then applies a lot that to the drug side world .

I never did go after season 4 of TD nor care what Nic has had to say in years, so that probably has an affect on this there.
 
It's not only the ending of the season, there are things peppered throughout all eight episodes. The ending hammers the final nail in the coffin though. I mean, it is the ending after all. Endings are kind of a big deal. But even then, it doesn't kill the season for me. I still really like it, and I've rewatched it a few times. I enjoy a lot of books/movies that I think have a conservative angle. Cormac McCarthy might have just been one of the most quietly conservative popular writers of the last fifty years, and his books are wicked smart.

I never finished The Wire, only saw the first two (I think) seasons. From what I've heard others say, it's more conscientious about cops being assholes. For what it's worth, I think TD S1 is conscientious about that too; I just think it doesn't follow through.
 
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Finished both series of Top of The Lake. Pretty good overall.
Elisabeth Moss does a decent job carrying off the damaged cop. There are times in the second series she's a bit over the top but she still does a good job.
Interesting to see some other young Aussie girls pop up in the show.
Charlotte Nicado from Mythic Quest (which will be on the watch list again soon) plays the demanding "young woman on a bus"
And Liv Hewson who played Abby in Santa Clarita Diet

Funny to see the 'porn club" boys sitting in the coffee shop talking about which hooker they've fucked while at the same wearing the obligatory metal shirts. Amon Amarth, Anthrax, Pantera, even a Utopia Records shirt got a good bit of publicity, might even have been product placement. But nerdy little dweebs jacking off to porn and talking dirty about hookers in a coffee shop must sum up the Sydney metal scene!
 
It's not only the ending of the season, there are things peppered throughout all eight episodes. The ending hammers the final nail in the coffin though. I mean, it is the ending after all. Endings are kind of a big deal. But even then, it doesn't kill the season for me. I still really like it, and I've rewatched it a few times. I enjoy a lot of books/movies that I think have a conservative angle. Cormac McCarthy might have just been one of the most quietly conservative popular writers of the last fifty years, and his books are wicked smart.

I never finished The Wire, only saw the first two (I think) seasons. From what I've heard others say, it's more conscientious about cops being assholes. For what it's worth, I think TD S1 is conscientious about that too; I just think it doesn't follow through.

I share similar criticisms with s1 TD. I think what sells me and most people is the performances themselves instead of necessarily amazing writing.

As for The Wire, the following two seasons are peak TV period. Case in point.

 
It's not only the ending of the season, there are things peppered throughout all eight episodes. The ending hammers the final nail in the coffin though. I mean, it is the ending after all. Endings are kind of a big deal. But even then, it doesn't kill the season for me. I still really like it, and I've rewatched it a few times. I enjoy a lot of books/movies that I think have a conservative angle. Cormac McCarthy might have just been one of the most quietly conservative popular writers of the last fifty years, and his books are wicked smart.

I never finished The Wire, only saw the first two (I think) seasons. From what I've heard others say, it's more conscientious about cops being assholes. For what it's worth, I think TD S1 is conscientious about that too; I just think it doesn't follow through.
I don't agree that it's peppered throughout, Marty's family falls out once they find out he's cheating (again). There is obviously no consistent female presence for Rust. But whatever, I never really agreed that the ending betrayed the show or really bought it down so I'm not really anywhere on that point.
 
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